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Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 01:17 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
If anyone did that, call the cops

If anyone did that, call the cops
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 12:59 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
Actually, I do advocate for unisex bathrooms, but...

Actually, I do advocate for unisex bathrooms, but that's beside the point.

Let me clarify: I was asking, in part, about whether cis women have the right to prohibit cis women from using a women's...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 11:56 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
That's answering a different question than the...

That's answering a different question than the one I asked. First of all, everyone already has the right to decide not to use a particular bathroom.

Unless you can always tell who is biologically...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 11:00 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
And if those women disagree?

And if those women disagree?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 09:54 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
And who decides what a woman is allowed to look...

And who decides what a woman is allowed to look like or how she is permitted to behave? (Remembering that some cis women are also denied access to women's bathrooms)
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 09:14 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
To Zig's point, are you claiming that you can...

To Zig's point, are you claiming that you can always tell?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 09:02 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Okay, great. Then what's your alternative to self...

Okay, great. Then what's your alternative to self ID?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 08:38 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
It was short-hand, because it is cumbersome to...

It was short-hand, because it is cumbersome to write it out every time. I am countering the argument that gender expression has no impact on our ability to determine someone's biological makeup. The...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 08:00 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
What it would demonstrate is that we do not...

What it would demonstrate is that we do not directly observe a person’s sex, but rather their gender expression. You weren’t the only one I was extending that offer to, btw.

And I’ve been trying...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 06:12 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
How confident are you about that ability? Is it...

How confident are you about that ability? Is it dependent on most people’s gender expression matching their biological sex, or do you think you could tell biological sex regardless if the gender cues...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th December 2023, 05:05 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Excellent point. Probably 67.4%* of the threads...

Excellent point. Probably 67.4%* of the threads have been people talking past one another. In this case, we’re talking about transgender and that puts it squarely in the realm of sociology, as far as...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 08:42 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
Is that your conclusion as a biologist or your...

Is that your conclusion as a biologist or your opinion?

If the former, do you have a biological definition of woman, or do you have a biological definition of female?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 08:20 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
As it happens, one can make the case for trans...

As it happens, one can make the case for trans women being women without sex being a spectrum. As your link points out,

Male and female are biological sex terms. Woman, cis woman, and trans woman...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 05:34 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
And actual biologists can affirm the opposite...

And actual biologists can affirm the opposite position.

Why are we talking about the opinions of fledgling architects, Marxist journalists, and anonymous bloggers, if there are actual experts we...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 03:30 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
Um, your first link is an anonymous opinion piece...

Um, your first link is an anonymous opinion piece and the second is by an author who, as far as I can find, writes as much extolling the virtues of Marxism as she does about her opinion on gender.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 02:53 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
Well, yes and no...

Well, yes and no...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 01:31 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
Ask and ye shall receive, I suppose.

Ask and ye shall receive, I suppose.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 01:27 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
https://www.theparadoxinstitute.zacharyaelliott.co...

https://www.theparadoxinstitute.zacharyaelliott.com/about-me.html

Your scientific rebuttal of a Nature article was written by an aspiring architecture student.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 12:55 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-red...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sex-redefined-the-idea-of-2-sexes-is-overly-simplistic1/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9355551/...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 12:07 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
I know people hate when a question prompts...

I know people hate when a question prompts another question, but here it is: What about girls who are displaced from a team by cis girls? Are those girls' wants and needs of lesser importance than of...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 10:57 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
And, Intellectual Design is not controversial...

And, Intellectual Design is not controversial among the people who actually study evolution. It has instead been made controversial by advocates pushing an agenda.


I don't think there is as much...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 10:50 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Oh, that's fantastic! What do most people in this...

Oh, that's fantastic! What do most people in this thread the relationship between sex and gender is?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 10:28 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
What, you mean like what Intelligent Design...

What, you mean like what Intelligent Design advocates want? That kind of teaching the controversy?

At the end of the day, it's a classroom, not a public forum. The test is based off of the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 10:15 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Also from the link: Again, while there is a...

Also from the link:

Again, while there is a very loud opinion in this thread that gender and sex are synonymous, it hasn't been considered so by sociologists since at least the 80s.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th December 2023, 07:10 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
How confident are you in this? Would you be...

How confident are you in this? Would you be willing to put it to the test?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 06:39 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
It does, doesn’t it?

It does, doesn’t it?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 10:44 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
The article I posted was from 2016 and I'd heard...

The article I posted was from 2016 and I'd heard it anecdotally from a friend before that.

ETA: And, imho, the thing that changed was yet another moral panic.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 10:21 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
You'd still have masculine cis women being denied...

You'd still have masculine cis women being denied access to women's restrooms.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 10:15 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
No, the point is that we haven't actually...

No, the point is that we haven't actually measured how accurate human ability to estimate someone's biological sex based on appearance, given atypical biological clues and social gender expression...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 09:52 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
The point wasn't whether you got it right or...

The point wasn't whether you got it right or wrong. The point is that people, all with super accurate DNA perception, don't agree. Same with the story about women's restroom gatekeepers blocking cis...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 09:42 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Do you see the problem of needing to add context,...

Do you see the problem of needing to add context, including dates? If this is the same person, and it appears to be, you have added information that they are have either transitioned or they are...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 09:10 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
I didn't say because I don't know.

I didn't say because I don't know.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 09:04 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Did you look at my link to Jessica Rosenberg? Is...

Did you look at my link to Jessica Rosenberg? Is that a bloke in a wig? What about the Mayor of Nashville and his family, of which there were diverse opinions?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 08:36 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Wow. Now, that's an interesting claim that should...

Wow. Now, that's an interesting claim that should be expanded on, and I would love to see support for it.

However, whether intellectual perception or ..."DNA perception", there is an error rate....
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 08:20 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Yeah, but you see how it doesn't address the...

Yeah, but you see how it doesn't address the question at hand, right? That study is an ideal case where even atypical biological features are minimized. Neat, but not really relevant to real world...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 07:18 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
But what are you basing that number on? Is it...

But what are you basing that number on? Is it that humans are super good about determining genetic information on sight or is it that most people's gender expression matches their sex? If the latter,...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th December 2023, 05:00 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
You can repeat a claim, but that doesn’t make it...

You can repeat a claim, but that doesn’t make it true. I’ve provided a number of counter examples that no one seems to want to take into account. There is, for example, the photo of the mayor of...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 11th December 2023, 06:07 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
It's the "cis/transdar is real" bit in this...

It's the "cis/transdar is real" bit in this thread. Same conceit, same cognitive bias, just as real.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 11th December 2023, 07:56 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
All science is rooted in philosophy. It's not...

All science is rooted in philosophy. It's not unusual for terms to be borrowed from it. Physics, for example, had it's own version of determinism until it got wrecked by quantum mechanics. Now,...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 10th December 2023, 05:51 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
They're sociology terms, not philosophy. If...

They're sociology terms, not philosophy.

If you're going to make fun of how stupid I am, you should at least get the field of study right.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 10th December 2023, 11:07 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
“Won’t you drink from this not-at-all poisoned...

“Won’t you drink from this not-at-all poisoned well? *wink*”

You already know my answer, because:

I’ve made no secret that I reject essentialism, as have most sociologists since at least the...
Forum: USA Politics 8th December 2023, 10:28 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
only if the worst happens.

only if the worst happens.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 8th December 2023, 08:51 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
Perhaps they were not raised to conform to their...

Perhaps they were not raised to conform to their identified gender norm, but that does not mean that they necessarily conform to their birth gender norm and, if I had to guess, the magnitude of a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 8th December 2023, 08:04 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
No, sorry. I knew this particular kid since...

No, sorry. I knew this particular kid since pre-school when they were in my son's class. They started with all the presentation of a cis-boy and gradually the presentation changed. I remember...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 03:21 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
I wouldn't say so.

I wouldn't say so.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 12:38 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
I agree with all of this, including the snipped...

I agree with all of this, including the snipped parts, but I would but air -quotes around the highly subjective word "correct". Just because non-conforming boys* don't have the identical negative...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 12:32 PM
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Posted By Upchurch
It isn't like flipping a switch. The trans kid in...

It isn't like flipping a switch. The trans kid in my son's grade school wasn't at all a surprise when they transitioned. Adherence to gender norms (or lack thereof) is completely applicable to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 07:57 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
I just wanted you to see how bad it is. 'cause...

I just wanted you to see how bad it is. 'cause it's pretty damn bad.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 07:52 AM
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Posted By Upchurch
"Shut up, TRA" You getting all this,...

"Shut up, TRA"

You getting all this, theprestige?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th December 2023, 07:50 AM
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Views: 91,600
Posted By Upchurch
You literally answered a different question that...

You literally answered a different question that you created by ignoring everything I said except for a single word. How am I the one arguing in bad faith here?
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