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Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 19th October 2022, 11:28 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I believe you have just committed the McNamara...

...I believe you have just committed the McNamara fallacy.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 18th October 2022, 01:07 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...are you able to provide a cite for that?...

...are you able to provide a cite for that? Because the research and the evidence tells us that only about 10-20% of sex workers are streetwalkers.



Can you provide some information on places...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 09:33 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...sure. Done. Now what? "Virtually...

...sure. Done. Now what?



"Virtually eliminate" is a mighty big claim that remains un-evidenced. And considering that 90% of sex workers in Germany remain unregistered, and that you have...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 09:17 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...you do understand that this would be illegal,...

...you do understand that this would be illegal, right? It's probably illegal where you live, it's illegal in Australia, it's illegal where I live.

Direct worker registration wouldn't make any...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 08:59 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...allowing sex workers the freedom to work from...

...allowing sex workers the freedom to work from the privacy of their own home would negate the need for a brothel or a hotel room. In fact, it even negates the need for direct worker registration.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 07:33 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...no problem. I'm glad that the lack of...

...no problem. I'm glad that the lack of understanding of our system will no longer be a source of frustration for you.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 07:27 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...you don't need to start over. The system here...

...you don't need to start over. The system here is really quite simple. In a nutshell: "It is not against the law to work as a sex worker or operate a brothel, nor is it against the law to pay for...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 07:22 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...what parts of our system are you not...

...what parts of our system are you not understanding?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 07:06 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...this thread has been going since July of this...

...this thread has been going since July of this year, has garnered over 1209 replies, and I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that you have posted on pretty much every page of this thread so far....
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 04:39 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
..."But I'm not claiming that employment...

..."But I'm not claiming that employment regulation in America is well-designed, well-implemented, or well-executed" or a useful model to be adopted and used in Australia.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 04:08 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...the requirement for a valid passport, or two...

...the requirement for a valid passport, or two other forms of ID in the US doesn't prevent this sort of thing from happening in America.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 17th October 2022, 02:56 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...of course we are. We are talking...

...of course we are.



We are talking about the 90% of sex work that takes place outside of legal brothels. Which means we are talking about consenting adults having sex in the privacy of their...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 16th October 2022, 11:35 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...how much oversight do you want over people...

...how much oversight do you want over people having sex in the privacy of their own homes? Because that's exactly what we are talking about here.



Yeah, this is the point.

We don't know....
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 16th October 2022, 08:39 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...nope. Did you know that in Western...

...nope.



Did you know that in Western Australia there are about 10,000 creative businesses, most of them sole traders, which means by your standards the creative industry there is "virtually...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 16th October 2022, 01:30 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I don't think you do. It's much...

...I don't think you do.



It's much more than that.



Of course we can wave it away. What is it, do you think, that the fact that "90 per cent of prostitution offered in Queensland takes...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 15th October 2022, 03:32 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I took a look at the the original cite, and...

...I took a look at the the original cite, and the "the rest of 90% of prostitution remains either unregulated or illegal" was unsourced. So I dug a little deeper, and what Professor Schloenhardt...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th October 2022, 05:26 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...sex work certainly is a more respectable way...

...sex work certainly is a more respectable way to live your life than saying things publicly like "I am going to bang someone's daughter out, for cash," IMHO. Fortunately, free speech is a thing...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 14th October 2022, 03:27 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...sir, this is an internet discussion board.

...sir, this is an internet discussion board.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th October 2022, 09:05 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...LOL.

...LOL.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th October 2022, 08:01 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...do you not understand what per capita means? ...

...do you not understand what per capita means?

Here are the actual non-made up figures: (you can look them up if you like)

The United States of America: 639 people incarcerated per 100,000...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 13th October 2022, 06:46 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...America locks up more people per capita than...

...America locks up more people per capita than anywhere else in the world.

If we were to release half of the people currently locked up in America today, you would STILL have twice as many...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 10th September 2022, 02:21 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...Jesus Mary and Joseph, you're doing it again...

...Jesus Mary and Joseph, you're doing it again and simply can't see it. Let's break it down super duper clearly:



If that is something you have posed, then that's on you to demonstrate.

To...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 10th September 2022, 01:35 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...this section from the ACLU findings are highly...

...this section from the ACLU findings are highly relevant to the questions you posed.



https://www.aclu.org/report/sex-work-decriminalization-answer-what-research-tells-us

78 percent of sex...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 11:00 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...for starters: one of those cites included a...

...for starters: one of those cites included a total of 83 sources, comprising 25 empirical qualitative studies, 25 quantitative studies, 27 mixed methods studies, and six systematic review/meta...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 10:36 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I'll take that as a "you go through the thread...

...I'll take that as a "you go through the thread and find it yourself" then.

Gotcha.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 10:25 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...supported by the ACLU report I cited and...

...supported by the ACLU report I cited and presented to you earlier in this thread as well as the 5-year review of the NZ legislative reforms. Did you read either one? Do you need me to link to it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 10:18 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I've answered this question for you already....

...I've answered this question for you already. Up until 2003, the New Zealand police force were similar to the police throughout the United States, only slightly less aggressive, and they didn't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 10:09 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...the video is illustrative of a concept that...

...the video is illustrative of a concept that you seem to be failing to understand. The overwhelming evidence that has been presented to you that sex workers in the United States do not trust the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 09:28 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I've shared this video with you before. ...

...I've shared this video with you before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfnUKXYK9YE&t=115s

Shows a sex worker getting arrested, and the reporter tells us that she is one month pregnant, that...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 08:28 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...in the States, in practically every scenario I...

...in the States, in practically every scenario I can imagine, you don't have to put the words "you aren't allowed to murder our employees" on a sign outside the shop window in order to assert your...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 06:57 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...the general argument against mandatory testing...

...the general argument against mandatory testing is made here by the Scarlett Alliance.

https://scarletalliance.org.au/library/mandatorytesting2012
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 09:05 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
..."special" is a pretty subjective word where...

..."special" is a pretty subjective word where the meaning can change depending entirely on the context.

Can you be a bit more specific about what you mean here?



Cosmic Yak has been very...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 08:18 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...NZ arguably has less strongly enforced...

...NZ arguably has less strongly enforced regulations than say, Australia or Germany. Sex workers are not required to be registered. Sex workers have no requirement to test. Do you consider that to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 08:05 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...is this something that you would disagree...

...is this something that you would disagree with? Does sex work bother you? What is wrong with decriminalising sex work? If they want to do it, do you have a problem with that?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 9th September 2022, 06:59 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...the law here has been cited over and over and...

...the law here has been cited over and over and over and over again. It is illegal for a brothel to compel a sex worker to do anything with a client. Consent overrides everything.

Sex workers...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 8th September 2022, 05:26 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I think New Zealand provides a legal framework...

...I think New Zealand provides a legal framework that allows people in the sex work industry to work significantly more safely than when that framework was absent. All of the available evidence...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 8th September 2022, 02:44 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...nobody is upset. Thermal was simply wrong. ...

...nobody is upset. Thermal was simply wrong.



Having sex with someone who is utterly repulsive is in no way analogous to rape. Rape is a crime. Being ugly isn't a criminal offence. If both...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th September 2022, 05:04 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I'm not the one that is playing word-games...

...I'm not the one that is playing word-games here. Words have definitions, and in the eyes of the law being specific is important. It appears you have decided to use a unique way of defining the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th September 2022, 07:49 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...it is illegal, in all circumstances, to compel...

...it is illegal, in all circumstances, to compel someone to have sex.



One cannot consent to being raped, because rape is the absence of consent. If you have been raped then by definition, you...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th September 2022, 07:26 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...LOL. Considering that rape is...

...LOL.



Considering that rape is sexual intercourse without consent, then yes, you cannot consent to being raped.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 7th September 2022, 06:55 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...that wouldn't be allowed here. Because just...

...that wouldn't be allowed here. Because just like every other work, employers are subject to the relevant legislation. Chefs are subject to the Food Act 2014. Truck drivers are subject to Heavy...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 4th September 2022, 04:38 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...no "mind reading"required. Your opinions...

...no "mind reading"required.

Your opinions are all out there in the open. You aren't even trying to hide anything now.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 4th September 2022, 04:19 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...I mean: it is gloomy dour and sour. ...

...I mean: it is gloomy dour and sour.



There is an explicit difference between paying your taxes and having to register as a sex worker. The potential dangers of registration are argued quite...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 4th September 2022, 03:18 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...yep. Corrupt and degenerate. Thanks for the...

...yep. Corrupt and degenerate. Thanks for the reminder.



You are proposing a scenario where in order to operate legally, a sex worker has to be registered with the state. The fee is just one...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 4th September 2022, 02:51 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...making this all about revenue generation is...

...making this all about revenue generation is precisely WHY this is equivalent to the Nevada model.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 4th September 2022, 08:48 AM
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Posted By banquetbear
...doing some housecleaning on the arguments: ...

...doing some housecleaning on the arguments:

It is undeniable that sex workers benefit from legalization. They have agency, and can pick and choose who they work for, and they have the full...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd September 2022, 07:11 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...it has everything to do with what we are...

...it has everything to do with what we are talking about. You don't need a "clean front man" if you want to run an illegal brothel. You just run an illegal brothel. If you have an Operators licence...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st September 2022, 07:08 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...here in New Zealand, any "street corner pimp"...

...here in New Zealand, any "street corner pimp" wouldn't be able to continue his operation if they had previously had a criminal conviction. The reforms bought competition. For most sex workers that...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 31st August 2022, 05:08 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...in case anyone is interested: here is the...

...in case anyone is interested: here is the original Occupational Health and Safety in the sex work industry documentation. It can get quite technical.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 31st August 2022, 04:31 PM
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Posted By banquetbear
...in the eyes of the law they are not....

...in the eyes of the law they are not. Statutorially. The distinction is relevant.



Less "intentional flippancy" and more a repeated pattern, IMHO.



I'm not your "cherished friend."
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