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Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 06:58 PM
Replies: 309
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Posted By Robin
That is what I sort of imagine people mean by...

That is what I sort of imagine people mean by those terms and none of that seems to be anything thay concerns me..

And if so they don't seem useful constructs to me, but I don't want to be telling...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 04:51 PM
Replies: 621
Views: 11,133
Posted By Robin
Someone in another thread told me that gender...

Someone in another thread told me that gender identity is largely a matter of which public toilet you choose, that if you knew to choose the men's toilet then you knew you were a man

It didn't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 04:51 PM
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Posted By Robin
Someone in another thread told me that gender...

Someone in another thread told me that gender identity is largely a matter of which public toilet you choose, that if you knew to choose the men's toilet then you knew you were a man

It didn't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 04:22 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
So I take it that you feel you have...

So I take it that you feel you have satisfactorily explained the Public Toilet Theory of Gender Identity but you can't tell me if it applies to trans men and trans women in this thread.

Even to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 03:12 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Why would I want to do that? No I would much...

Why would I want to do that?

No I would much rather stay here and find out more about your Public Toilet Theory of Gender Identification, which you seem to think is relevant to this thread

Now...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 02:36 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
So, you are suggesting that I collect all the...

So, you are suggesting that I collect all the times you and Thermal have told me that I must know which gender I am if I can make a choice at the public lavs and paste it into that interminable...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 01:51 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Hey, now you are confusing me. You lot have...

Hey, now you are confusing me.

You lot have been insisting over and over again that if I know which public toilet to use then I must know what gender I am.

I said no, there must be more to it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 11:47 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
But if it all comes down to knowing which public...

But if it all comes down to knowing which public toilet to use...

Then that implies that trans men are men and trans women are women.

Right?

Cos let's face it, they have no trouble deciding...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 10:33 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I am not sure if all of that was supposed to make...

I am not sure if all of that was supposed to make it more clear

And this idea that rest room choice maketh a man. Do you realise how weird that sounds to me.

The fact that you seem to think...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 10:29 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
This idea of "homophobes" in the 70s as being...

This idea of "homophobes" in the 70s as being some sort of minority that could be disregarded is somewhat quaint.

In the 70s homophobes were more or less everyone, which is why the word didn't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 10:13 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Rather than respond in kind, I am going to ask...

Rather than respond in kind, I am going to ask for moderation on this.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 09:27 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Maybe I should clarify on the public toilet...

Maybe I should clarify on the public toilet thing, which appears to be a large part of it.

I am glad that so many find the public toilet thing a simple choice.

Must be nice.

I have come to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 09:23 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Closer to clarity? No, it still seems to be...

Closer to clarity?

No, it still seems to be all about public toilets and clothing and you appear to be backtracking on clothing.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 09:20 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
You are the one that brought footwear into it,...

You are the one that brought footwear into it, don't accuse me of bringing in the drag queen shoes.

And yes, people really didn't think of queers as men. You can choose not to believe that if you...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 08:10 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
But I am getting it now. Manhood is largely...

But I am getting it now.

Manhood is largely about public toilets and clothes.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 08:09 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Maybe in your experience. Nearly every woman I...

Maybe in your experience. Nearly every woman I have met hate them.


When people say they don't understand what I am saying I don't conclude that they do understand what I am saying. I assume they...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 08:04 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I have dealt with this daft question so many...

I have dealt with this daft question so many times.

I don't see public rest rooms as some sort of commitment to identity.

I obviously feel uncomfortable in any public rest room and have often...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 07:37 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Then why, speaking for themselves, couldn't they...

Then why, speaking for themselves, couldn't they just say so?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 07:35 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
High heels are a weird thing. The only...

High heels are a weird thing.

The only people I have met who like them are drag queens and even they can't wait to change into some flat soles.

Yet they always seem to be a thing.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 07:22 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
By these definitions I don't have a gender...

By these definitions I don't have a gender identity, so the result is the same.

I am just wondering how much agreement you will get from the others about this.

The only specific examples seem...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 07:13 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
So why does, for example bluesjnr say that he has...

So why does, for example bluesjnr say that he has tried really hard and can't understand where I am coming from?

Are you saying he/she does understand but is pretending not to?

Why does xjx388...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 05:37 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I mean seriously, am I really supposed to...

I mean seriously, am I really supposed to conclude from people saying they don't understand my position that in fact they did understand and already explained to me what was wrong with it???
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 05:33 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Oh goodness me what a load of cofswallop. ...

Oh goodness me what a load of cofswallop.

You mean all those people telling me they just don't understand my position and telling what I mean by gender identity were only pretending not to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 03:25 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
He is misrepresenting. I did not say that...

He is misrepresenting.

I did not say that people were disapproving of my position

I said, as was absolutely clear, he disapproved that I would say I didn't understand gender and want to talk...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 03:14 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
The OP says just what the shorter version says. ...

The OP says just what the shorter version says.

Anything else is a product of your imagination and I can't really waste time on stuff that I have never said, as I told you.

If the nonsense that...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 02:59 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I was adamant that I have no idea what you lot...

I was adamant that I have no idea what you lot are on about when you talk about "gender", "gender identity" and so on (and I am mystified why that hasn't sunk in yet).

"Gender expression" is in...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 01:52 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
As I have posted a few times, the following...

As I have posted a few times, the following sentence summarises what I am saying here:

I don't understand what people mean by gender or identifying as a gender so I don't identify as any gender
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 01:31 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
You couldn't even read that sentence. I was...

You couldn't even read that sentence.

I was talking about the way you appeared to be criticising me for saying I didn't understand gender and wanted to talk about it anyway.

But you said you...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 01:19 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Oh, so it wasn't the inept sneer it came off as. ...

Oh, so it wasn't the inept sneer it came off as.

And thanks for confirming that you reallt are the kind of person who would describe an atheist conference as a conference of people who "wanted to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 3rd June 2022, 12:39 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I suppose you may even believe that But are...

I suppose you may even believe that

But are you seriously telling me that what you wrote there was your honest and best attempt to paraphrase what I was saying?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 10:44 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Did I say I reject manhood? Nope. I...

Did I say I reject manhood?

Nope.

I said I don't understand the concept.

Not so long ago I was at a restaurant and the signs on the toilet doors said "Cowboys" and "Cowgirls".

But I can't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 10:33 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
So many people wanting to tell me that I...

So many people wanting to tell me that I understand what gender is

OK then, explain to me what I understand gender to mean.

Then we will both know.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 10:29 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
You seemed to think that there was something...

You seemed to think that there was something wrong with saying that I didn't understand what is meant by gender and then wanting to talk about it anyway.

But you said you didn't understand the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 03:14 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
You will be surprised to learn that the same...

You will be surprised to learn that the same thing in different words. But I have gone back through the OP and that is just exactly what it says.

I put in the shorter version because people...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 07:13 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Nope, but here is your chance to tell me. ...

Nope, but here is your chance to tell me.

What does it mean? Generally?

And why is it so important to you that I identify as a guy?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 07:11 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
No of course not, why do you ask? I don't...

No of course not, why do you ask?

I don't recall saying it was imprecise.

I recall saying that I had absolutely no idea about what it meant.

Why do people keep coming up with these silly...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 05:41 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 1,337
Posted By Robin
Although to out this in context trans women very...

Although to out this in context trans women very rarely talk about or allude to gender politics at all.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 05:22 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 1,337
Posted By Robin
The other side of this is that of all the trans...

The other side of this is that of all the trans women I have known, I have never heard any of them even once say "I identify as a woman". I have heard once or twice "I am a woman"
Forum: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 2nd June 2022, 05:09 AM
Replies: 525
Views: 14,542
Posted By Robin
And a few weeks back it was "They can't get their...

And a few weeks back it was "They can't get their story straight"
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 03:43 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
Yeah, but it is no problem for me as I am not a...

Yeah, but it is no problem for me as I am not a gendrist. I can leave that to anyone who buys in to the concept of gender.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 03:09 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I'm other words you don't know what I mean by the...

I'm other words you don't know what I mean by the following sentence:

I don't understand what people mean by gender or identifying as a gender so I don't identify as any gender

Right?

Well,...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 02:06 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I don't think you can have actually read what I...

I don't think you can have actually read what I said.

I said that I don't know what is meant by gender or what it means to identify as a gender.

Now you are asking me whether or not I accept...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 2nd June 2022, 12:04 AM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
See here is where you go wrong. You appear...

See here is where you go wrong.

You appear to buy into the myth that there was some magical time when the only distinctions made between men and women was purely their biological sex.

When...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 1st June 2022, 11:40 PM
Replies: 266
Views: 4,684
Posted By Robin
I suppose a definition is only a list of...

I suppose a definition is only a list of attributes that can be stated to pick out one concept from another.

God, in the sense of the Abrahamic God has some things in common with Zeus. Some...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 1st June 2022, 11:34 PM
Replies: 266
Views: 4,684
Posted By Robin
A large number of the arguments thrusts have used...

A large number of the arguments thrusts have used to prove the existence of an actual God start with a definition of God and then add "is imaginary". The idea is to show that this leads to a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st June 2022, 11:16 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
I can't help you then, because that is it, that...

I can't help you then, because that is it, that is all I said.

I can't pretend to have said or to be saying anything else for your benefit.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st June 2022, 09:41 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
And also I don't want to invalidate anyone elses...

And also I don't want to invalidate anyone elses experiences.

I don't want to change society in this respect, especially as this would entail meddling with stuff I don't understand. Maybe gender...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st June 2022, 09:10 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
My mistake. Reading it without glasses and I am...

My mistake. Reading it without glasses and I am seeing words that aren't there.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st June 2022, 09:03 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
OK, so here is the entirety of what I am saying...

OK, so here is the entirety of what I am saying here:

I don't understand what people mean by gender or identifying as a gender so I don't identify as any gender

And you say you don't understand...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st June 2022, 08:54 PM
Replies: 309
Views: 4,315
Posted By Robin
The trouble is that there is not a single thing...

The trouble is that there is not a single thing you have said here that would substantiate your claim to have read any of my words.
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