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Forum: USA Politics Yesterday, 10:41 AM
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Posted By Paul2
Maybe for the defense, but not for the...

Maybe for the defense, but not for the prosecution. If the prosecution learns that the defendant is innocent, they are obligated to drop the case, even if they think they can win it.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st July 2022, 12:32 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I didn't want to have a conversation with you...

I didn't want to have a conversation with you about this, but I will give you this reply:

I was merely trying to explain in the best possible terms, as a steel-manning, what a "valid, lived...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st July 2022, 11:20 AM
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Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
If it's OK with you, I'd like to just move on and...

If it's OK with you, I'd like to just move on and not get into a back and forth. I hope that's OK.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 1st July 2022, 08:28 AM
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Posted By Paul2
But that is not my argument.

But that is not my argument.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 03:08 PM
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Posted By Paul2
It is when EC wondered what LC meant by "valid...

It is when EC wondered what LC meant by "valid lived experience."
Obviously, public policy is an important issue. We can, in this thread, talk about more than just public policy. We can talk about...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 03:05 PM
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Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
On that basis, we don't have any disease, because...

On that basis, we don't have any disease, because it's just something happening in the body. But your more salient point is here:



The content of their hallucinations or delusions, or the fact...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 02:29 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
But you as much admit that there might be an...

But you as much admit that there might be an organic basis for gender dysphoria, and that is distinct from whether the person claims they are actually the sex they aren't, which is distinct from...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 02:24 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Perhaps the issue is whether gender dysphoria has...

Perhaps the issue is whether gender dysphoria has some organic basis to it, like pain does, and having a fursona doesn't. On what basis do we rule that out, even if we haven't yet ruled it in?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 01:47 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
It's the difference between merely feeling and...

It's the difference between merely feeling and being: feeling like a woman - actually having the sensation and perception that you are a woman, but not being deluded to think that you are actually a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 01:44 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Who knows? Accident of biology? Doesn't...

Who knows? Accident of biology?

Doesn't this issue just come down to whether gender dysphoria is - I hesitate to use the word, but for lack of a better one - real, in the same sense that...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 01:36 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
But That's what I was responding to. I'm...

But

That's what I was responding to.
I'm happy to have pain be an example, not an analogy.

I imagine - again, trying to straw man his position - is that, if we sometimes accept some internal...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 01:22 PM
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Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Does this help, especially the highlighted...

Does this help, especially the highlighted sections?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 01:19 PM
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Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Some here didn't understand what was meant by a...

Some here didn't understand what was meant by a "valid, lived experience." I tried to make an analogy to pain as a valid lived experience. That's all. The rest has merely be me trying to explain...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 11:54 AM
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Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I think the difference is that, say, a male with...

I think the difference is that, say, a male with a lived experience of being a woman need not - I am choosing my words carefully here, please read them carefully - think they are a woman in the same...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 11:45 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I hope I was careful with my qualifiers. My...

I hope I was careful with my qualifiers. My analogy doesn't need to say *all* pain must believed in order to identify some cases in which pain is believable but cannot be objectively verified.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 11:27 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Except that we still have the possibility of an...

Except that we still have the possibility of an analogy to pain for a valid experience, instead of it necessarily being a delusion, right?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 11:24 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Sure. But there are also times when someone...

Sure. But there are also times when someone feels pain but not severe enough to elicit some involuntary reaction, and it was those times that are then not objectively verifiable if the doctor can't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 10:23 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Sure, then "valid" adds nothing to "lived." I...

Sure, then "valid" adds nothing to "lived." I consider it more rhetorical, making explicit the valid nature of something lived, even though it's already implicit in the word "lived."
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 10:05 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Why is my analogy to pain not congruent or...

Why is my analogy to pain not congruent or consistent with your examples?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 30th June 2022, 10:03 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
There are times when there is no - and can be no...

There are times when there is no - and can be no - objective verification of pain, and yet doctors will treat the patient on the basis that the patient is feeling pain, even if there are times when...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 29th June 2022, 08:17 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
My analogy to pain was merely an attempt to...

My analogy to pain was merely an attempt to define and understand what the term "genuine/valid lived condition" might mean, because some were questioning what it could possibly mean. The analogy to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 29th June 2022, 08:12 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
It was an answer to what does a genuine (=valid)...

It was an answer to what does a genuine (=valid) lived condition mean. Pain is also a genuine, valid lived condition, in the way relevant to the analogy.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 28th June 2022, 02:46 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
Trying to steelman LJ’s position, I’d say it...

Trying to steelman LJ’s position, I’d say it might be similar to pain: a totally internal experience for which we usually accept the report of the subject, although it can be abused.
Forum: USA Politics 28th June 2022, 10:07 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 2,735
Posted By Paul2
Is there a time limit on a coach’s influence? ...

Is there a time limit on a coach’s influence?
Did you track those athletes for any conversions for the full length of that time limit?
How did you measure any influence the coach might have...
Forum: USA Politics 28th June 2022, 07:14 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 2,735
Posted By Paul2
The problem isn't whether the prayer was done in...

The problem isn't whether the prayer was done in a closed, locked room or done - literally, for once! - on the 50-yard line, or whether anyone witnessed the prayer.

The problem is that the...
Forum: USA Politics 27th June 2022, 09:09 PM
Replies: 152
Views: 2,735
Posted By Paul2
Maybe, but so what? What's more important is...

Maybe, but so what? What's more important is that there is an articulable, reasoned argument why it's worth being in an uproar when Christians, Muslims or any religion does the same, so who cares...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th June 2022, 06:50 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 9,519
Posted By Paul2
Talking Convincing you to not post here anymore? :D:D:D ...

Convincing you to not post here anymore? :D:D:D

I apologize, I don’t mean that at all, it was just too good too pass up.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 25th June 2022, 10:21 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 9,519
Posted By Paul2
Thomas’ rejection of substantive due process is...

Thomas’ rejection of substantive due process is absurd. It would allow - wouldn’t it? - the majority to decide to kill everyone who can curl their tongues, and as long as the procedure was proper -...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th June 2022, 11:46 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 9,519
Posted By Paul2
https://money.yahoo.com/where-donate-support-abort...

https://money.yahoo.com/where-donate-support-abortion-access-164444313.html
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th June 2022, 11:43 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 9,519
Posted By Paul2
Can you summarize the idea of substantive due...

Can you summarize the idea of substantive due process leading to privacy rights?

Nvmd
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th June 2022, 10:15 AM
Replies: 2,096
Views: 76,827
Posted By Paul2
There is a check on the SCOTUS: the constitution...

There is a check on the SCOTUS: the constitution can be amended.

Now, the SCOTUS could ignore amendments and just do what they want. That can always happen. But so could police refuse to enforce...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th June 2022, 07:34 AM
Replies: 2,096
Views: 76,827
Posted By Paul2
/thread **************

/thread

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Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 18th June 2022, 08:38 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I meant democracy as it is currently practiced by...

I meant democracy as it is currently practiced by states in the West, generally.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 18th June 2022, 07:11 AM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I'm not aware of anything about democracy that...

I'm not aware of anything about democracy that gives anyone in particular the right to participate in consultations, presumably between legislators and lobbyists, interested parties, etc. This is...
Forum: USA Politics 15th June 2022, 12:53 PM
Replies: 1,761
Views: 122,605
Posted By Paul2
Tell the DoJ this. Immediately.

Tell the DoJ this. Immediately.
Forum: USA Politics 15th June 2022, 11:52 AM
Replies: 1,761
Views: 122,605
Posted By Paul2
I admit of no one wanting the Tangerine Tyrant to...

I admit of no one wanting the Tangerine Tyrant to get his due more than I. I'm only laying out what might be in the mind of the DoJ's prosecutors and M. Garland.

Back to your regularly scheduled...
Forum: USA Politics 15th June 2022, 09:10 AM
Replies: 1,761
Views: 122,605
Posted By Paul2
If there was any justice in the world, he'd be...

If there was any justice in the world, he'd be charged, convicted, and the key thrown away. But there isn't, because here's the consideration:

If you charge him, something between what we have...
Forum: USA Politics 14th June 2022, 03:11 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 2,849
Posted By Paul2
"Those who get you to believe absurdities can get...

"Those who get you to believe absurdities can get you commit atrocities." - François-Marie Arouet
Forum: Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories 13th June 2022, 07:57 PM
Replies: 59
Views: 1,667
Posted By Paul2
Between Dunning-Krueger, confirmation bias,...

Between Dunning-Krueger, confirmation bias, motivated reasoning, and poor evidential standards, there’s no hope.
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 01:53 PM
Replies: 1,761
Views: 122,605
Posted By Paul2
Nice one! Or, how about he's just sentenced...

Nice one!

Or, how about he's just sentenced to some community service? Har, har, the irony would be too much even for the exploding irony meter.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th June 2022, 01:44 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
I took your charge of paternalism to be...

I took your charge of paternalism to be substantive and factual, not merely tactical. Some statement or position can be paternalistic beyond whether it is tactical or politic to hold that position...
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 01:30 PM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
I mentioned two factors that must be taken...

I mentioned two factors that must be taken together.

Also, those two factors are not devoid of context (10,000+ lies Trump told during his presidency, his scams, like Trump Univ., etc., etc.).
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 12th June 2022, 01:11 PM
Replies: 1,001
Views: 16,055
Posted By Paul2
This appears to be a statement of the position...

This appears to be a statement of the position that someone can not be blind to their own interests, nor fail to judge them accurately. Now, of course, there is a long and unfortunate history of...
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 01:03 PM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
But Trump's confidence was based on nothing,...

But Trump's confidence was based on nothing, which makes it an odd type of confidence.

So we have

being confident of something without a shred of evidence
doing so allows you to play both...
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 12:21 PM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
Let's say it like this: Trump was determined to...

Let's say it like this: Trump was determined to stay in power no matter what, regardless of whether he thought the election was rigged or not. Hell, he *won* the 2016 election fair and square and...
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 12:18 PM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
There is a very significant equivocation going on...

There is a very significant equivocation going on between believing the election was stolen based on even flimsy evidence, and believing the election was stolen because one is so narcissistic and...
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 11:01 AM
Replies: 1,761
Views: 122,605
Posted By Paul2
The actual blight on the country that is...

The actual blight on the country that is embarrassing is a president that committed acts that demand a jail sentence.
Forum: USA Politics 12th June 2022, 07:49 AM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
Statements against interest are (slightly?) more...

Statements against interest are (slightly?) more likely to be true than the opposite. It's not determinative, just indicative.
Forum: USA Politics 11th June 2022, 07:27 AM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
Partisan = political = biased = false = WE WIN!

Partisan = political = biased = false = WE WIN!
Forum: USA Politics 10th June 2022, 06:50 PM
Replies: 3,068
Views: 161,163
Posted By Paul2
This is another step in the project of destroying...

This is another step in the project of destroying truth so some can gain more power.
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