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Forum: General Skepticism and The Paranormal 27th September 2020, 06:23 AM
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Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I'll never forget a heated PM exchange Munns had...

I'll never forget a heated PM exchange Munns had with me, not the other way around, because I made fun of him for begging people for money to continue his "research." What a guy.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 11:11 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Here's the problem: once you've refused to leave...

Here's the problem: once you've refused to leave the train, you do not have any right to freedom of movement as it relates to being on board that train. This is something they call "the law."...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 11:08 AM
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Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
From as far back as I remember, the topic was...

From as far back as I remember, the topic was about a passenger on a train getting punched for being an arse, which then led into a discussion of the use of violence on trains, which prompted a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 11:03 AM
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Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Not really. We're discussing modern day UK, and...

Not really. We're discussing modern day UK, and troublesome passengers on trains, and what can be done with them legally. It's like I've just walked up David Lynch's arse or something.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 11:01 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Exactly what I thought, you don't have anything...

Exactly what I thought, you don't have anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument, lol.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:57 AM
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Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Considering I'm the one posting literal facts of...

Considering I'm the one posting literal facts of law relating to the removal of troublesome passengers on public transportation and you're waffling on about Jewish people in Nazi Germany, I'm waiting...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:52 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
You're equating the mistreatment, however lawful...

You're equating the mistreatment, however lawful or unlawful, of Jewish people in Nazi Germany to a troublesome passenger being asked to leave a train in the UK.

I mean, wow. Just... Wow.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:44 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
You don't have to respect my opinion at all,...

You don't have to respect my opinion at all, mate, but you do have to accept reality, and you're nowhere near to reality in your postings on this topic.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:32 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
There will be occasions in the public and private...

There will be occasions in the public and private health sectors when it is lawful and necessary for security officers to use
physical intervention skills to protect themselves and others from...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:25 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Not really, no, seeing as a jew in a box-car in...

Not really, no, seeing as a jew in a box-car in Nazi-led Germany has absolutely sod-all to do with a troublesome passenger being asked to leave a train. :boggled:
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:21 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Firstly, when you think of someone getting taken...

Firstly, when you think of someone getting taken off a train, what on earth do you picture? It's usually done by no more than two officers taking the man by the arms and literally lifting him off the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:12 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Considering he's talking about the scenario in...

Considering he's talking about the scenario in which a troublesome passenger has been asked to leave and has refused to do so and is then ejected from the train, he's talking complete gibberish.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 10:04 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
No, in legal circles, the definition is pretty...

No, in legal circles, the definition is pretty important, mate. Did you bother looking at this:https://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Documents/sfs-physical-intervention-reducing-risk-nhs.pdf

...or...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 09:59 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Maybe so, but in the UK, I've seen no evidence...

Maybe so, but in the UK, I've seen no evidence that would suggest black people are being excluded from juries.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 09:18 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
It may be difficult for some to believe on here,...

It may be difficult for some to believe on here, but the UK isn't the deep south.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 09:14 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
It's a wonder why I get paid handsomely to...

It's a wonder why I get paid handsomely to perform the job you're arguing about, and you don't, innit? lol.

I don't even know how to process that post, it's like you're Jim Lahey, letting the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 09:00 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
The embarrassingly obvious difference being that...

The embarrassingly obvious difference being that you and your mates don't have any authority to remove anyone from such places, nor are you properly trained to practice physical intervention, so you...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:52 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Here's some details on transport offenses,...

Here's some details on transport offenses, including when and how people can be asked to leave, and what can occur if they refuse to do so:

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/transport-offences
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:50 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Spoken like a man who doesn't live in reality.

Spoken like a man who doesn't live in reality.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:47 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
The norm at the ISF, mate. :p

The norm at the ISF, mate. :p
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:46 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
If said person is refusing to leave when asked by...

If said person is refusing to leave when asked by a person with the authority to make him leave and thus resorts to physical intervention, the person refusing to leave has essentially given up his...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:31 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
He's nowhere near to being right. I don't even...

He's nowhere near to being right. I don't even know what planet he's posting from, truth be told.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:30 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Literally no, lol. Once a troublesome...

Literally no, lol.

Once a troublesome passenger has been asked to exit the train by a person who has legal authority to eject troublesome passengers from trains, they are no longer enjoying any...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:26 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Do you know what the word "violence" means? I...

Do you know what the word "violence" means? I just posted the definition, not once, but twice. The intended outcome of physical intervention (as outlined in the document I posted that you pretended...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:21 AM
Replies: 110
Views: 4,023
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Bill Burr had a pretty similar rant on Paper...

Bill Burr had a pretty similar rant on Paper Tiger involving men who claim they're feminists, it was pretty funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D0ZygYEw1c
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:18 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
When all options to have a troublesome passenger...

When all options to have a troublesome passenger leave a train have been exhausted, the last resort is physical intervention. Seeing as the intended outcome of said intervention is not to damage the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:13 AM
Replies: 110
Views: 4,023
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Exactly, it can go both ways, and seldom are...

Exactly, it can go both ways, and seldom are things so clear-cut. That's not to say many women haven't had it rough in employment over the years, they certainly have, but in the UK, it's much more...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 08:08 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Calling the cops is violent?! lol. What cave are...

Calling the cops is violent?! lol. What cave are you actually residing in?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:57 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Considering your argument is one of ignorance,...

Considering your argument is one of ignorance, naivety and outright fabrication, along with the fact that I work within the very security industry being discussed, and have done for many years, being...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:52 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
violence /ˈvʌɪəl(ə)ns/ Learn to pronounce ...

violence
/ˈvʌɪəl(ə)ns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but speaking from...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:47 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
No offense, mate, but are you 12 years old?

No offense, mate, but are you 12 years old?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:43 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla...

Let me tell you what now. I'ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' *******, who'll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin', hillbilly boy? I ain't...
Forum: General Skepticism and The Paranormal 20th August 2020, 07:40 AM
Replies: 2,321
Views: 471,300
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
It's rare here in the UK for such things to...

It's rare here in the UK for such things to feature on the news, and if it does, it's generally a little light-hearted clip near the end of the show. There are places one can find such things, but...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:32 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
A big part of the job requires that all officers...

A big part of the job requires that all officers are trained and capable of practicing safe and legal physical intervention.
...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:27 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I'm sorry, fella, but you're chatting absolute...

I'm sorry, fella, but you're chatting absolute nonsense here.

When anyone in the UK trains for any sort of job within the security industry, they must obtain and pass their S.I.A. training. Such...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:14 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Most of the time, the aggressive/drunken...

Most of the time, the aggressive/drunken passenger isn't even aware of what's happening because he's been removed from the train rather quickly by at least two officers. It's quick, and painless,...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:12 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Because you're using legal and non-lethal force...

Because you're using legal and non-lethal force to remove them after exhausting all other avenues to have them leave said train. This honestly isn't something anyone can argue with me, I've done it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:10 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I worked alongside the BTP with Carlisle Security...

I worked alongside the BTP with Carlisle Security for many years so I can agree, and have never once witnessed any BTP officer punch a passenger even if they were acting aggressively. I have,...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 07:07 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Using practiced and legal maneuvers to remove...

Using practiced and legal maneuvers to remove people from trains/nightclubs, etc, isn't violence, hence why it's legal. There are legal ways to do it, and non-legal ways to do it. If you ask a person...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:51 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I've never seen or used violence from the BTP or...

I've never seen or used violence from the BTP or other security outfits while working in any position of security on board transportation, tbf. BTP are used to dealing with all kids of nutters on...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:47 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
That's the sad reality of getting involved, which...

That's the sad reality of getting involved, which is why I stopped playing the hero a while ago. You never know what will happen. I've seen the most weedy little kids being turned away from clubs...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:36 AM
Replies: 110
Views: 4,023
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I'd also like to see some hard data on your...

I'd also like to see some hard data on your assertion that men are generally okay with such issues and can just carry on with it. I mentioned on here just a few years ago that I'd lost a friend to...
Forum: General Skepticism and The Paranormal 20th August 2020, 06:26 AM
Replies: 2,321
Views: 471,300
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Exactly, the cultural impact of the PGF was huge,...

Exactly, the cultural impact of the PGF was huge, and as you say, all in an age without internet.

I only knew of the GBH because of the internet, by comparison.

It was always funny to me that...
Forum: General Skepticism and The Paranormal 20th August 2020, 06:23 AM
Replies: 2,321
Views: 471,300
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I don't doubt it appeared online as a sort of...

I don't doubt it appeared online as a sort of fluff piece, because they have to fill the content somehow, but it certainly didn't hit the mainstream news here or feature in any papers I looked at. As...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:20 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
It all depends on what he's done, if there's...

It all depends on what he's done, if there's sufficient evidence against him and witnesses come forward, etc. If he's not got a record, he's not likely to do jail-time or anything. Shouting abuse at...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:17 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
I've said a few times, there are people who can...

I've said a few times, there are people who can be contacted in the event of such issues, I know, because I used to do this as a job, working with the BTP. I have removed plenty of people from...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:15 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Has nothing to do with colour, in fact, to imply...

Has nothing to do with colour, in fact, to imply that colour changes this scenario is weak at best and ridiculous at worst.

The men being abused could be any colour, race, sexual orientation, you...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:11 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Had the BTP been alerted, the racist bloke...

Had the BTP been alerted, the racist bloke would've been removed from the train.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:04 AM
Replies: 2,029
Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Concussion is no joke.

Concussion is no joke.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 20th August 2020, 06:02 AM
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Views: 34,533
Posted By Gilbert Syndrome
Totally different ball-game in the UK. Having a...

Totally different ball-game in the UK. Having a record, especially one of ABH/GBH, means that you can't even get a Visa-waver when travelling to the States, you can't work with kids, you can't pass...
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