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Forum: Trials and Errors 11th March 2024, 09:53 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
It's also true that math doesn't lie. Yet a...

It's also true that math doesn't lie. Yet a friend had once transposed two digits on an important entry while doing his tax return. Two lousy digits. That mistake cost him big time, and took...
Forum: Trials and Errors 9th March 2024, 06:48 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Dishonest police DNA 'experts'

So, you don't think Scientific Police would fudge DNA results?


https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/us/colorado-bureau-of-investigation-data-scientist-manipulation-case/index.html
Forum: Trials and Errors 8th March 2024, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
From Variety: Lewinski these days is...

From Variety:


Lewinski these days is especially concerned about the way people's stories are hijacked.
Forum: Trials and Errors 6th March 2024, 01:10 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
This is another example of how the 'evidence'...

This is another example of how the 'evidence' against Knox and Sollecito was mainly judicially created, if not totally.

While not direct evidence, the 'poor, poor' Rudy trope, meme, narrative,...
Forum: Trials and Errors 2nd March 2024, 07:53 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Another one. Forty years in prison. But this...

Another one. Forty years in prison. But this time, one of the exonerated is freed into terminal cancer, with only months left to live. Jerome Kennedy, a lawyer with Innocence Canada, said the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 24th February 2024, 12:58 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
I started in on all this in 2010 (has it been...

I started in on all this in 2010 (has it been THAT long!).... and then dropped it. I was looking for 'online info' on the case, that being the time after the first conviction.

Back then I thought...
Forum: Trials and Errors 19th February 2024, 09:14 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
How many times do people need to post citations...

How many times do people need to post citations from the 2013 Chieffi motivations report, that debunk your repeated factoid?

The term ultra vires was NOT used by Chieffi in relation to C&V. The...
Forum: Trials and Errors 19th February 2024, 02:06 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Vixen can't. Why? Because even the Chieffi...

Vixen can't. Why? Because even the Chieffi panel in 2013 did not say that. If they had, Vixen (or someone else) would have posted a citation proving it. That's what makes the claim a factoid.
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 17th February 2024, 02:12 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
The best guilter comment to the constant...

The best guilter comment to the constant reposting of Stefanoni's crew videotaping themselves with dirty collection gloves, was from some who said that no one was interested in looking at them.
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 05:50 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Ric Gillespie from TIGHAR, took a DNA collection...

Ric Gillespie from TIGHAR, took a DNA collection team to Nikumaroro Island looking for remains of Amelia Earhart. I saw the TV special showing how they isolated a presumed campsite... etc etc...
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 01:57 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
.... however, given that Chieffi thought of it as...

.... however, given that Chieffi thought of it as a distinction WITH a difference, it perhaps explains the guilter factoid (repeated by Vixen) that Vecchiotti testified that there'd been no...
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 01:33 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
That may be so, which I hope is why I asked. ...

That may be so, which I hope is why I asked.

I'm now officially above my pay grade in knowing how to continue.
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 10:52 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
In fairness, the issue that the 2013 Chieffi...

In fairness, the issue that the 2013 Chieffi court raised had a nuance to it.

It was not that the defence had to prove contamination, per se - who which would have been blatantly...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 07:32 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
The following is the sum total of what the ISC...

The following is the sum total of what the ISC Chieffi panel wrote in 2013, in support of quashing the Hellmann acquittal of Sollecito and Knox..... er, the sum total of what they wrote about the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 04:23 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Mignini is bitter. You may be the only one left...

Mignini is bitter. You may be the only one left who defends him, much less quotes him....
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 03:48 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
I don't know why you need to post absurd claims...

I don't know why you need to post absurd claims like this.
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Ah, er, no. The 2013 ISC panel annuled the...

Ah, er, no. The 2013 ISC panel annuled the Hellmann verdict, and criticized **Hellmann** for turning over a judicial concern to be de facto decided by C&T. Once again, that was part and parcel of...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 02:15 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Dr. Peter Gill in his paper on the forensic DNA...

Dr. Peter Gill in his paper on the forensic DNA analysis in this case, he too writes about the starch found on the knife, Exhibit 36.
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 01:58 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
For those who are scientifically inclined, or...

For those who are scientifically inclined, or have some level of expertise, one can read for themselves Conti-Vecchiotti's analysis and conclusions.
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 01:28 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
So? Blood can be deposited onto already...

So?

Blood can be deposited onto already existing DNA. You still have not addressed the question as to why you blame Sollecito for the lacj of testing of the presumed semen stain....

... when...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 12:21 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
It's amazing you'd risk repeating Massei's...

It's amazing you'd risk repeating Massei's 'rationale'.

And yet the Knox DNA retrieved from the very bathroom which she shared with the victim was assumed to be dateable.

Massei stunningly and...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 11:04 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
It is bizarre in the extreme that you'd hang the...

It is bizarre in the extreme that you'd hang the non-testing of the presumed semen-stain - found on the pillow under the hips of the victim....

.... that you'd hang it on either Sollecito or his...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 10:34 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
No, the first translation I posted was from a...

No, the first translation I posted was from a guilter internet site, such translation done by people who, back then, had no qualms in otherwise vilifying Knox, Sollecito, their supporters and the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 07:44 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
The concept that the 'evidence' had all been...

The concept that the 'evidence' had all been judicially created was not my idea. The poster (I believe here on ISF when it was JREF) went into some detail to explain what she meant....

.... and I...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 07:32 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
As if Mignini's views on this case have not been...

As if Mignini's views on this case have not been totally debunked... here you are quoting from Mignini

Oh well.
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 11:59 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Vixen obviously has a good command of English,...

Vixen obviously has a good command of English, which makes it all the more bizarre that she would refer to a Finnish-language rendering...... it certainly is crazy making to take her seriously enough...
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 06:32 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
It's clear that you view it that way. It is...

It's clear that you view it that way. It is strange, though, that the guilters who translated this don't seem to agree with you.
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 10:41 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Yes. And she who does the claiming should not...

Yes. And she who does the claiming should not post links that in reality debunks her claim. Like the pic posted which was claimed to show no bars on the window, but the pic had bars on the window....
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 10:21 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Presented so that you can argue with your fellow...

Presented so that you can argue with your fellow guilters about whether or not they'd made a true translation!



Google translate, for what it is worth....
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 09:03 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Yes, we've had this discussion before. Please...

Yes, we've had this discussion before. Please note that this translation comes from a guilter source, and it is to their credit that they translated from the Italian faithfully, where the underlying...
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th February 2024, 04:50 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Ah, er, no. The final court summarized BOTH...

Ah, er, no.

The final court summarized BOTH the prosecutions' factoids, as well as the defences' cases. As it should. It then ruled that on the basis of no one claiming that there'd been...
Forum: Trials and Errors 11th February 2024, 07:31 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Huh? Did you read Grinder's debunking of the...

Huh?

Did you read Grinder's debunking of the so-called 'bleach evidence'?



Using the word 'presumably' indicates that this claim is not derived from evidence. It means it's derived from...
Forum: Trials and Errors 10th February 2024, 07:31 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
I'm like you, because, I, too, find things to be...

I'm like you, because, I, too, find things to be strange. Like when people post pictures which prove the opposite of what they'd been claiming, or post links to 2015 ISF posts which actually say the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 10th February 2024, 03:26 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Sigh. You point to a 2015 post by Grinder (I...

Sigh.

You point to a 2015 post by Grinder (I miss Grinder!) that DEBUNKED the use of bleach. That's your answer to "what was all that with the bleach, mopping up and intricate showering?"

This...
Forum: Trials and Errors 9th February 2024, 07:04 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
For those who claim that they've read 10,000...

For those who claim that they've read 10,000 pages of court documents, I would recommend that they read 62 more, from the University of Cincinnati about wrongful convictions in Canada.
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 9th February 2024, 06:34 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
.... as it is to me. Yet experts who have...

.... as it is to me.

Yet experts who have studied the phenomenon of wrongful prosecutions have written about commonalities. The way the Vallejo police tried to sully the reputation of a victim of...
Forum: Trials and Errors 8th February 2024, 07:41 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Even when the police in Vallejo declined to...

Even when the police in Vallejo declined to arrest Denise, they STILL sent out a cop to tell the media that she had wilfully misled them - that she had caused valuable public resources to be wasted....
Forum: Trials and Errors 3rd February 2024, 10:49 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
The parallels with the Kercher case were...

The parallels with the Kercher case were unnerving.

Aaron went into the 'interview' willingly, thinking that all he was doing was helping the cops search for his girlfriend. What does this remind...
Forum: Trials and Errors 1st February 2024, 06:53 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
My reading on the subject of interrogations is...

My reading on the subject of interrogations is that that's the ONLY role of them, to have the suspect confirm the theory that the police bring into the room. Indeed, the Reid Technique of...
Forum: Trials and Errors 1st February 2024, 10:23 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
The thing which should keep all of us more...

The thing which should keep all of us more humble, is that we often don't know what we don't know. I mean before the Hellmann court and before the C-V report on the original DNA evidence, who...
Forum: Trials and Errors 30th January 2024, 06:20 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Me, I'm not immune from reaching hard and fast...

Me, I'm not immune from reaching hard and fast opinions about things - reached BEFORE I have all the relevant information.

What was interesting about the investigation and trials to do with the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 18th January 2024, 12:10 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
There was a wrinkle in this case that the...

There was a wrinkle in this case that the guilters always exploited. When one of even the prosecution's expert witnesses (Novelli?) testified that Stefanoni had NOT followed international...
Forum: Trials and Errors 30th December 2023, 07:28 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
When Mignini himself stood accused of abuse of...

When Mignini himself stood accused of abuse of office, the prosecutor in that case let the time-limit lapse. When Kurt and Edda Mellas were charged with defamation because of the Sunday Times piece...
Forum: Trials and Errors 29th December 2023, 11:52 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Me, I have made predictions about this coming up...

Me, I have made predictions about this coming up to the verdict of each trial, and I have been exactly wrong each time.

I don't see how the new Florence calunnia trial CAN convict... I still think...
Forum: Trials and Errors 24th December 2023, 04:52 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Yet, the Massei court accepted the DNA 'evidence'...

Yet, the Massei court accepted the DNA 'evidence' against Knox, as collected in the bathroom she had used for a number of weeks. Add to this the criticism leveled at her that she was not cleanly.......
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th December 2023, 06:44 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
I don't think I am in even partial disagreement...

I don't think I am in even partial disagreement with you. I hold it likely that the reason the prosecutor argued against annulment without referral is that he knew the case had no chance if...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th December 2023, 06:26 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Yes. Knox's successful appeal to the ECHR of...

Yes.

Knox's successful appeal to the ECHR of her calunnia conviction, resulted in the conviction being overturned by Italy but sent back down to an appeal's level. Right now she stands accused as...
Forum: Trials and Errors 6th December 2023, 09:02 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
Thanks so much for passing this on, Stacyhs. The...

Thanks so much for passing this on, Stacyhs. The contrast between a 36 y.o. Amanda Knox, with Rudy once again in trouble for alleged violence towards women, it is stark!
Forum: Trials and Errors 28th November 2023, 03:52 PM
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Posted By Bill Williams
If I remember correctly, this is exactly what...

If I remember correctly, this is exactly what happened at some sort of preliminary hearing, when a lawyer questioned if Stefanoni had ever produced negative controls. The judge stopped the hearing...
Forum: Trials and Errors 27th November 2023, 11:57 AM
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Posted By Bill Williams
You've done a good job, Stacyhs, of highlighting...

You've done a good job, Stacyhs, of highlighting the complete inconsistencies of the police as well as Mignini about the timeline of what was said and when, on that fateful night. Here we are a good...
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