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Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 29th April 2021, 11:27 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
It doesn't count if they're cops.

It doesn't count if they're cops.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 27th April 2021, 05:22 PM
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Views: 138,106
Posted By caveman1917
<SNIP> Edited for rule 0 and rule 12. It's...

<SNIP>
Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.

It's just sad really, and that's not even mentioning that those new charges are just variations of the old one - as if adding "Demonstrating and picketing in...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 06:11 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
They didn't know they weren't challenging the...

They didn't know they weren't challenging the security perimeter? Or they didn't know that Pence et al were behind that perimeter?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 05:53 PM
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Posted By caveman1917
Yes it's quite clear that this is the whole idea...

Yes it's quite clear that this is the whole idea behind this position, to preemptively justify the mass shooting of leftist anti-government protesters, as I already pointed out:
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 02:31 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Well it appears that the cops and prosecutors...

Well it appears that the cops and prosecutors disagree and are indeed just charging them with various appropriate offenses and not arguing to shoot the crowd en masse. It's not even clear that you'd...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 01:24 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Yes, that was the source I used which, like you...

Yes, that was the source I used which, like you indicated, stated that only a minority was charged with something other than "entering or remaining in a restricted building." Wait, you do understand...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 01:21 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
This is what you said: That's what we call a...

This is what you said:

That's what we call a lie.



Liars falsely accusing others of lying, typical projection. Of course, I didn't lie, as the source I had used had only the "entering or...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 01:14 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
:rolleyes: The lie, repeated over and over...

:rolleyes:

The lie, repeated over and over in this thread, is plainly there for anyone to see.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 01:08 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Yes, I searched for "inflicting bodily injury"...

Yes, I searched for "inflicting bodily injury" and it returned only a single result, not hundreds like you claimed. Why do you (plural, many in this thread do this) keep lying about this?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 01:00 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
So I went and checked and it is simply false that...

So I went and checked and it is simply false that hundreds have been charged with inflicting bodily injury on certain officers. I only found one of them in the list charged with that. Why do people...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 26th April 2021, 12:49 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Because he always shows up to protests with the...

Because he always shows up to protests with the same costume, it's his "thing." Which goes to show even more that the spear wasn't meant as a weapon, as he didn't bring it specifically for this...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 25th April 2021, 12:23 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Which wouldn't stop it being a crowd. And it...

Which wouldn't stop it being a crowd. And it seems to be only a couple dozen of them doing that, the vast majority was just random MAGA idiots who walked into the Capitol, thought it was the coolest...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 25th April 2021, 11:47 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
700 people packed together constitutes a crowd.

700 people packed together constitutes a crowd.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 25th April 2021, 11:46 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
I see you chose not to answer my actual question...

I see you chose not to answer my actual question about actual differences but to just repeat your claim again. And marginal seems to cover it quite well...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 07:24 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
I first hadn't even noticed the spear. ...

I first hadn't even noticed the spear.



What does it matter what they were charged with? The idea was to shoot them all on the spot, remember?
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 01:46 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Well in the scenario I do have a gun, making the...

Well in the scenario I do have a gun, making the scenario reduce to "Was the person lying on the floor from gunshot wounds carrying a belt or a spear?" I have no preference either way.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 12:51 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Depends on what you're armed with. If you're in a...

Depends on what you're armed with. If you're in a main battle tank then I don't think you're going to care much.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 12:47 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
A completely accurate reply to the following...

A completely accurate reply to the following propaganda (https://stockholmslender.blogspot.com/2007/05/stalins-willing-executioners-pro.html):


I've already linked to the Enabling Act before, but...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 12:40 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
At what point have I encouraged anything? And why...

At what point have I encouraged anything? And why should intra-oligarchic rivalries concern me? Heck, if anything it seems a good thing these events occurred, as the total fiasco made a good joke out...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 11:55 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 11:53 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
More like "the oligarchy is not entitled to...

More like "the oligarchy is not entitled to special pleading" - plenty of examples after all of cops overrunning worker or street assemblies or autonomous zones where democratic counts were in...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 11:39 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
The rational decision is not to let one's life be...

The rational decision is not to let one's life be ruled by irrational fears and not having a preference on this. Sure, if I'm, say, waiting for a train and there are 2 wagons, one containing people...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 24th April 2021, 09:58 AM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
No it was based on where the person "might be a...

No it was based on where the person "might be a threat" - which is always true. If you want to make your scenario dependent on the person actually being a threat then your scenario is not analogous...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 03:08 PM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Here's an actual fact: Inanimate objects don't a...

Here's an actual fact: Inanimate objects don't a purpose. They may be used for different purposes, but they don't, in and of themselves, have a purpose.

Your first fact also seems dubitable in...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:50 PM
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Posted By caveman1917
Like anyone I've obviously faced tons of people...

Like anyone I've obviously faced tons of people with belts before. I think one of the few times I've faced a person with a spear was during a historical reenactment. I'm indifferent really, I don't...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:33 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Having to choose an analogy that is non-analogous...

Having to choose an analogy that is non-analogous in a key point is hardly the big win you seem to think it is. Try the analogy with a belt, since that's also worn with the primary purpose of being a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:06 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Depends. Is it an essential part of some larger...

Depends. Is it an essential part of some larger costume that you're using? Do you regularly use that same costume at other events? Then of course, the stipulation that it's loaded would suggest it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 01:56 PM
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Posted By caveman1917
Yeah police really are the biggest babies around....

Yeah police really are the biggest babies around. Everyone hates being kicked, but only some go so far as to attack a person because they imagine they might hypothetically be kicked. I mean, I've...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 08:53 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
I never claimed it does, why should I even care...

I never claimed it does, why should I even care what distinctions the law - let alone US law - does or does not make?



Seems similar to the shoe thing then. That was also as a "while committing...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 08:21 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Yeah cops seem to love pulling that stuff...

Yeah cops seem to love pulling that stuff everywhere, over here they charged someone with having a weapon because he had his work-shoes (which were iron-tipped) on as he came to the protest directly...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 07:39 AM
Replies: 3,811
Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Never claimed you did, it was others who did so. ...

Never claimed you did, it was others who did so.



A stun gun is unambiguously a weapon as its only use is as a weapon, a spear which is part of a costume and used as a flagpole isn't. Sure, it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 07:17 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Looks like in the US you can just shoot someone...

Looks like in the US you can just shoot someone for anything. The notion that things which could conceivably be used as weapons but don't have that primary function should be considered weapons too...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 06:49 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
The bar for execution is quite low indeed. The...

The bar for execution is quite low indeed. The only interaction between him and the cops I could find consisted of them talking a bit in a hallway, with no threatening stance with the spear or...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 05:36 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
arthwollipot mentioned the horns could be used as...

arthwollipot mentioned the horns could be used as weapons as well. Costume attributes which could hypothetically be used as weapons are not the same as, say, a gun. At some level there are always...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 05:00 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
That doesn't say anywhere that all 700 people...

That doesn't say anywhere that all 700 people inside the building broke windows and killed cops and brought kidnapping equipment. It also says nowhere that specifically bison guy, desk-feet guy, and...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 04:36 AM
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Posted By caveman1917
Feel free at any time to show that people on...

Feel free at any time to show that people on Joe's list, 1) broke windows, 2) killed cops, and 3) brought kidnapping equipment.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 04:34 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
What other evidence? You do understand how...

What other evidence? You do understand how actually entertaining it will be should you now not be able to present any other evidence? I mean, a priori, the claim is unlikely. About 400 people entered...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 04:10 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Oh and Dave, maybe you should ponder the notion...

Oh and Dave, maybe you should ponder the notion that maybe, just maybe, the reason the truther argument is rejected is because pictures can be shown of the planes hitting the buildings. If someone...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 04:04 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
The only time in those pictures I can see him...

The only time in those pictures I can see him even be in contact with police they are standing inside and they seem to be talking with some cop. Either way, I'm not seeing any spearing or otherwise...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 03:40 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
:rolleyes: You really didn't think I would...

:rolleyes:

You really didn't think I would fall for this bait-and-switch, right? You've yet to demonstrate that the people on Joe's list did anything other than walk into a building. And trying to...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:34 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
She doesn't appear to be specifically mentioned...

She doesn't appear to be specifically mentioned on Joe's list, other than indirectly as part of "anyone inside the building." Either way, climbing over barricades is a common occurrence - indeed the...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:17 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
I'm not seeing bison guy engaged in any of these...

I'm not seeing bison guy engaged in any of these things. Indeed, you'd think the horns would give it away. And yes, breaking windows and showing one's way in is one way in which one would occupy a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 02:02 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Who are the Redcaps? And how is this even...

Who are the Redcaps? And how is this even relevant given that most occupations occur so as to stop some process. For example a forest got occupied around here a while ago to stop the process of it...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 01:52 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
'I'm looking at a picture that doesn't show the...

'I'm looking at a picture that doesn't show the thing you're talking about, therefor the thing exists." Seriously? If you want to claim the thing exists then at least have the decency to provide a...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 01:48 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Of course they do, it's why they select targets...

Of course they do, it's why they select targets for "fine pink misting" based on how sacrilegious their actions were rather than how much of a threat their actions posed.



Do you have some...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 12:37 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
How close was he ever to prodding distance of one...

How close was he ever to prodding distance of one of the older people in congress? And was he trying to close this distance, did he challenge the police perimeter at the house floor?



Like I...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 23rd April 2021, 12:17 AM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
If you don't like your failure to show that the...

If you don't like your failure to show that the people on Joe's list did anything more than just walk into a building then that's your problem and not mine. It's clear that the people on Joe's list...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 22nd April 2021, 11:52 PM
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Views: 212,955
Posted By caveman1917
Looking through some pictures of the events it...

Looking through some pictures of the events it appears that those most obviously wielding potentially (and actually) deadly weapons are Capitol Police. Either way, they're not on Joe's list.
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 22nd April 2021, 11:49 PM
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Posted By caveman1917
Well I first checked the picture of the guy with...

Well I first checked the picture of the guy with his feet on the desk but couldn't easily determine whether he had a weapon or of what sorts, so then I realized that shirtless guy was shirtless so...
Forum: Social Issues & Current Events 22nd April 2021, 11:43 PM
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Posted By caveman1917
How do you know it's bison guy who did these...

How do you know it's bison guy who did these things? Sounds like just your average riot anyway, from a quick glance. But Joe gave a list so I picked bison guy as he happened to be shirtless so it was...
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