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Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 08:38 AM
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Posted By Paul Bethke
The END of the END

So at this stage I will leave the discussion as it is only going to be a repeat of all that I have stated.
I thank all my valued critics for their input—it certainly causes me to re-evaluate my...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 08:36 AM
Replies: 677
Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
The commands that were given to Israel were to be...

The commands that were given to Israel were to be distributed to all nations, every command had an application and can be paired with many present day laws.

So at this stage I will leave the...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 08:26 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Strange that you do not understand the...

Strange that you do not understand the Scriptures---before the flood there were two commands that regulated the behaviour of those people and these two commands would have kept the population in...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 08:00 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Well first of all, according to the Scriptures...

Well first of all, according to the Scriptures the world as we know it has only been in existence for 5777 years according to the Hebrew Scriptures. Now according to the Hebrew Scripture or record of...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 07:03 AM
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Posted By Paul Bethke
You seem to have a problem understanding what I...

You seem to have a problem understanding what I say, and as such you go off on a tangent about some ludicrous nonsense you concoct.

Well that is certainly true—keep all the commands and commit...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 06:47 AM
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Posted By Paul Bethke
Well put, but not entirely true, people who try...

Well put, but not entirely true, people who try to communicate with the dead are detestable to the Creator and as such will be removed (IF) they do not repent, because the means that these people use...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 06:24 AM
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Posted By Paul Bethke
You are totally wrong and in what you state—the...

You are totally wrong and in what you state—the Sabbath is all about worshiping the Creator, because the laws that were given required a person to rest and allow those under his authority to rest.
...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 05:57 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
You really do not know what you are talking...

You really do not know what you are talking about, you understand nothing about truth, always surmising.

You SEE, or maybe you cannot SEE—I never did say that I am more powerful than the Creator,...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 05:33 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Does that not prove that the rest of the...

Does that not prove that the rest of the adulterous world does not agree with what is a sanctified marriage—one approved by the Creator from the beginning.
It is not my interpretation, but that...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 03:15 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Deut 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak...

Deut 18:20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my Name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
Deut 18:21 You may...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 02:50 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Well Cosmic, you need me and the Church to tell...

Well Cosmic, you need me and the Church to tell you what to repent of, and to SEE that your repentance is in accordance with the terms of repentance.

Then you need someone to immerse you in water...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 12:52 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
There came a separation in the time due to the...

There came a separation in the time due to the rejection of Christ as the Jewish Messiah, So the Church regulated Sunday to be a Sabbath, not replacing the Jewish sabbath.

But what is the Sabbath...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th June 2017, 12:37 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
But you do not understand, that sex constitutes...

But you do not understand, that sex constitutes marriage, and if the couple part and have sex with another that is adultery.
Marriage as the Creator decreed is that one man to have one wife and one...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 11:51 PM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Strong is not that very reliable—it is the...

Strong is not that very reliable—it is the understanding of Scripture.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 11:48 PM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
There are times when words convey the real...

There are times when words convey the real meaning. Prediction is different from prophecy, and to understand the difference makes a big difference.

When the difference is understood it will make...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 09:53 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
I am right it is a simple distinction between the...

I am right it is a simple distinction between the two, prophecy and prediction have different applications, and as such can be seen as the wisdom of understanding the purpose of the written...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 09:39 AM
Replies: 677
Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Millions of people do not keep the Sabbath as...

Millions of people do not keep the Sabbath as stipulated—because working on the Sabbath was and is the main criteria.
Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 09:19 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
I told you that you do not understand the...

I told you that you do not understand the Scriptures as adultery was the main cause for the banishment of Israel out of the land allocated to them.

Everywhere one is confronted with the incitement...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 07:26 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Now once again you are wrong—it is the cafeteria...

Now once again you are wrong—it is the cafeteria Christian approach that does not follow the teachings of Christ with regards to a sanctified marriage, permitting divorced people to remarry.
I am...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 06:51 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
No it is you who does not understand the...

No it is you who does not understand the difference even with your claim as to knowing how to read the original languages.

You SEE, even me who cannot read the original can still fathom what the...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 06:44 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
What about this one---Leviticus 6:1 The LORD...

What about this one---Leviticus 6:1 The LORD said to Moses:
Lev 6:2 "If anyone sins and is unfaithful to the LORD by deceiving his neighbour about something entrusted to him or left in his care...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 03:08 AM
Replies: 677
Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
No what is done is to take those commands that...

No what is done is to take those commands that apply to the current situation into account.

What you need to understand is that some commands are not in effect today as the Temple with its...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 02:48 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Past failures will ensure present success, please...

Past failures will ensure present success, please do not be disenchanted there will be predictions that will come into effect which you can relay to your friends.

You can tell them how you...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 02:42 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
You make a false statement because you do not...

You make a false statement because you do not understand the difference between prediction and prophecy.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 01:07 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Now you must understand what it is to speak in...

Now you must understand what it is to speak in the Name of the LORD. If you do not understand what it means, then you cannot apply it to me!!

My prediction was and is in line with prophecy, but...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th June 2017, 12:51 AM
Replies: 677
Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
But can you not understand that not all of the...

But can you not understand that not all of the commands can be obeyed because of the present situation with the Temple and because I am not a Jew living in Israel—so which commands are still valid...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 12th June 2017, 11:55 PM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
How very wrong you are because you as well as so...

How very wrong you are because you as well as so many others do not understand prophecy.
It is only when a person understands the construction of Scripture as regards to the aspect of prophecy can...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 08:06 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
No, it does not---a prediction based on the...

No, it does not---a prediction based on the possibility was issued, which did not take place—but the Word of Yahweh still remains infallible.

A false prophet is one utters that which is contrary...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 06:42 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
You are speculating again—you figured wrong as...

You are speculating again—you figured wrong as always, you are not worth communicating with.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 06:38 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
The call to repentance is not what the false...

The call to repentance is not what the false prophets support—they more likely will support people going on in sin.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 06:35 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Yes that is true, but there was no real call to...

Yes that is true, but there was no real call to repentance, repentance is the opportunity the Creator is giving people repent of the evil that is so prevalent today.

Other proclaimist just want...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 06:29 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Is there an art? Do I not proclaim the...

Is there an art?
Do I not proclaim the commands of the Creator, how can that be non-answer?
What are you practicing?
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 04:53 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
I suppose you feel good, if that were not so--but...

I suppose you feel good, if that were not so--but if it is so, you will not feel so good!!
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 04:49 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
These are still valid laws and must be taught as...

These are still valid laws and must be taught as it appears in the Decalogue.
Exodus 20:12 "Honour your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 02:50 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
The END

A lot of people envisage the END, but this person has a terrible picture for the END

http://messianic-revolution.com/l23-23-yeshuas-coming-called-great-terrible-day-lord/
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th June 2017, 02:42 AM
Replies: 677
Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
There are many commands that are applicable,...

There are many commands that are applicable, especially the Ten Commands which you do not SEE as the most important of all.

No when it states that manna must not be collected on the Sabbath, this...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 08:50 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
What you miss is that all applicable laws are...

What you miss is that all applicable laws are still in effect, and they can be applied, such as:--
Lev 19:35 "'Do not use dishonest standards when measuring length, weight or quantity.
Lev 19:28 ...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 08:26 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
No I have not ignored what is written for all to...

No I have not ignored what is written for all to SEE--the point I was making is that the LORD will raise up another like Moses, so all is not lost.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 08:21 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
What I am showing is that there are laws that...

What I am showing is that there are laws that cannot be put into practice, that does not mean that I and others are not obedient to the faith, which is the keeping of Torah.
I can read and...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 07:33 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Well that is what you say—but not what is...

Well that is what you say—but not what is written. Romans 2:17 Now you, if you call yourself a Jew; if you rely on the Torah and brag about your relationship to God;

I am not a Jew, but I do...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 07:22 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
But was not the eunuch unable to understand what...

But was not the eunuch unable to understand what he was reading, this is my comparison not to a person being an eunuch. What I am saying is that a person can read something and not understand what he...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 06:01 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
I can always correct the things I got wrong with...

I can always correct the things I got wrong with a superior understanding.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 05:58 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
The comparison was that a person or an eunuch...

The comparison was that a person or an eunuch needed the Scripture to be explained as the person reading the Scriptures did not understand what he was reading, so how can that be insulting?


Now...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 05:46 AM
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Views: 116,468
Posted By Paul Bethke
Oh dear if there was no Moses then we are...

Oh dear if there was no Moses then we are certainly doomed to uncertainty---BUT wait there is hope as the uncertain Book of Moses states--Deut_18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 05:09 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
How stupid of me—I did not mention the darkness...

How stupid of me—I did not mention the darkness of sin that reigns in the world today.

John 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 05:06 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
Yes that seems to be the case at the moment, but...

Yes that seems to be the case at the moment, but take note when the time comes, then the power of Yahweh will become evident to all as is prophesied by Jesus---

Mark 9:1 And he said to them, "I...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 04:57 AM
Replies: 1,405
Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
What insults, stating the truth cannot be an...

What insults, stating the truth cannot be an insult—so why are you representing the man, he can speak for himself.

Initially everything needs to be explained, either by demonstration or...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 04:45 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
But perhaps you have not read, or no one has told...

But perhaps you have not read, or no one has told you that this world will eventually be governed by Yahweh---Revelation_11:17 saying: [hiliute]"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 04:35 AM
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Views: 186,689
Posted By Paul Bethke
The Creator as it is written is grieved by the...

The Creator as it is written is grieved by the unholy conduct of people—therefor he give precepts of how people should conduct themselves in order to become holy and remain holy.
Two adults...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th June 2017, 04:07 AM
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Posted By Paul Bethke
But I have no follows—I merely state what is...

But I have no follows—I merely state what is written.

So, you reported me to the moderators, because I said you do not understand prophecy, which you do not.

Many people read literature which...
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