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Forum: Trials and Errors Yesterday, 09:04 PM
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Posted By Numbers
The guilter lies Stacyhs illustrate intellectual...

The guilter lies Stacyhs illustrate intellectual dishonesty that may arise from the guilter's (conscious or not) need to support ideology or conspiracy theory that is falsified by empirical evidence...
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th March 2024, 06:08 AM
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Posted By Numbers
The blanket statement "DNA doesn't lie" is, as...

The blanket statement "DNA doesn't lie" is, as your posts attempt to explain, simplistic and not at all the appropriate view. It assumes that the several complex procedures used in DNA profiling and...
Forum: Trials and Errors 9th March 2024, 07:20 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Also: It's not clear yet if any...

Also:



It's not clear yet if any wrongful convictions or wrongful acquittals resulted from the alleged DNA forensic misconduct. However, according to the Denver Post article*, the Colorado...
Forum: Trials and Errors 8th March 2024, 12:09 PM
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Posted By Numbers
According to a CNN article*, the Hulu series is...

According to a CNN article*, the Hulu series is produced in part by the production company owned by Knox and Robinson.

*...
Forum: Trials and Errors 3rd March 2024, 01:05 PM
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Posted By Numbers
For a view of exonerations in a country that...

For a view of exonerations in a country that explicitly aspires to due process, the National Registry of Exonerations (a project of three US universities) is invaluable. Their recent online...
Forum: Trials and Errors 20th February 2024, 08:22 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Bill Williams, I agree with you that the term...

Bill Williams, I agree with you that the term "ultra vires" wasn't used in the Chieffi CSC panel Mr against C&V, but that was only in the public part that everyone could see.

There must be...
Forum: Trials and Errors 19th February 2024, 07:11 AM
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Posted By Numbers
You can read the Chieffi Report for yourself. ...

You can read the Chieffi Report for yourself. Let me know whether it fits the description of 'excoriating' or not.

https://chieffireport.wordpress.com/


Chieffi Report...
Forum: Trials and Errors 19th February 2024, 06:56 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Whether or not Conti and Vecchiotti were correct...

Whether or not Conti and Vecchiotti were correct in stating that they were unable to DNA profile the knife handle sample at issue with their testing equipment - and the Chieffi CSC panel would not...
Forum: Trials and Errors 18th February 2024, 08:40 PM
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Posted By Numbers
There is an issue here that Vixen either doesn't...

There is an issue here that Vixen either doesn't understand or is choosing to ignore. This issue isn't that the prosecutors in this case violated criminal or procedural laws or were incompetent, but...
Forum: Trials and Errors 18th February 2024, 01:14 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Post 1. Mignini was a prosecutor, not a trial or CSC...

1. Mignini was a prosecutor, not a trial or CSC judge. His opinion is not a legal judgment. The Marasca CSC panel was the ultimate court that judged the Knox - Sollecito case, and that panel's...
Forum: Trials and Errors 17th February 2024, 02:25 PM
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Posted By Numbers
This BBC article on DNA contamination in the Knox...

This BBC article on DNA contamination in the Knox - Sollecito case from 30 Jan 2014 shows how this topic was discussed in the media at that time:
...
Forum: Trials and Errors 17th February 2024, 12:12 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Let's picture how careful surgeons are in...

Let's picture how careful surgeons are in applying protocols for sterility in conducting an operation. Avoiding contamination in DNA testing is at least that demanding. The procedures used by...
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 04:51 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Could be. It would likely be impossible to be...

Could be. It would likely be impossible to be sure of the route of the contamination because some investigation at each of the points of possible contamination would be required. It's like evaluating...
Forum: Trials and Errors 16th February 2024, 11:44 AM
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Posted By Numbers
The Chieffi request for the defense to prove a...

The Chieffi request for the defense to prove a route of contamination rather than to prove contamination itself is a distinction without a difference.

There is no way for the defense, which has...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 08:04 PM
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Posted By Numbers
There is a Constitutional legal issue involved,...

There is a Constitutional legal issue involved, it is not merely one of being able to argue about the source of the contamination.

Because the accused is innocent until proven guilty under the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 07:45 PM
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Posted By Numbers
1. No, the Chieffi CSC panel MR and judgment was...

1. No, the Chieffi CSC panel MR and judgment was not the final "supreme" end of the case. Recall that their judgment was an annulment of the acquittal on the murder/rape charges and a final...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 07:24 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Since you have posted a response, I will let you...

Since you have posted a response, I will let you in on the Italian law:

CPP Article 617, Grounds of the judgment and filing of the judgment (summarized with annotations)

After the deliberation,...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 06:53 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Please explain the meaning of the term "throw...

Please explain the meaning of the term "throw out" as you have used it in your quoted post. Do you mean to say that the Chieffi court disagreed with the C&V testimony or report, or that it expunged...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 06:37 PM
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Posted By Numbers
I was looking forward to seeing if you can...

I was looking forward to seeing if you can identify the CPP articles that describe the lawful procedures for writing and signing the MR, or if you would simply keep dodging.
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 01:11 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Please provide a citation for your claim. I...

Please provide a citation for your claim.

I note your continued failure to supply the Italian word or phrase and its context that was translated as "even if" in the guilter translation.
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th February 2024, 11:20 AM
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Posted By Numbers
This information that you provide is perhaps even...

This information that you provide is perhaps even more interesting than the issue of what the English phrase "even if" means.

I have several questions.

1. Do you have documentation that Judge...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 10:32 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Even so, I thank you for bringing that concept...

Even so, I thank you for bringing that concept that was introduced by another poster into the current discussion.

Even though the judge is expected to "connect the dots" in a motivation report to...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 07:28 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Even though much has been posted on this topic at...

Even though much has been posted on this topic at this point, I thank you for pointing out in your post the concept that the alleged evidence against Knox and Sollecito was judicially created. Even...
Forum: Trials and Errors 14th February 2024, 09:33 AM
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Posted By Numbers
It's difficult for me to understand the logic of...

It's difficult for me to understand the logic of your argument. It appears you are again resorting to deflections and distortions.

I have certainly never claimed that you can't speak English. Your...
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 06:08 PM
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Posted By Numbers
What is the Italian word or phrase you are going...

What is the Italian word or phrase you are going on about?

Why have you not shown us that Italian word or phrase in context (meaning, its surrounding Italian text), allowing readers here to...
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 11:02 AM
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Posted By Numbers
It was your claim. I could refer you to...

It was your claim.

I could refer you to research the topic of "intellectual honesty". Intellectual honesty is an approach that appears to be lacking in your arguments.
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 10:14 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Please don't ask me to do your research.

Please don't ask me to do your research.
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th February 2024, 08:55 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Perhaps here you have a problem with your...

Perhaps here you have a problem with your understanding of the English language. Otherwise, you are intentionally distorting the common meaning of a commonly used English language phrase.

"Even...
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th February 2024, 05:06 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Well, there certainly is an untrue factoid that's...

Well, there certainly is an untrue factoid that's been fabricated and placed somehow in the first paragraph of your quoted post.
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th February 2024, 12:21 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Indeed, it appears that Stefanoni in her...

Indeed, it appears that Stefanoni in her testimony and perhaps in her testing activities and intentional failure to provide the raw DNA profile data may have committed violations of Italian criminal...
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th February 2024, 09:21 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Repeating nonsensical statements does not make...

Repeating nonsensical statements does not make those statements true.

Readers of this forum may be well acquainted with the actual facts.

Here are some references for those wishing to recall...
Forum: Trials and Errors 11th February 2024, 10:12 PM
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Posted By Numbers
For those interested in following the details of...

For those interested in following the details of the CSC judgment annulling the conviction of Amanda Knox for calunnia against Lumumba, which includes referral for retrial, the function of the CSC -...
Forum: Trials and Errors 18th January 2024, 04:25 PM
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Posted By Numbers
The point may be better stated as it was Amanda...

The point may be better stated as it was Amanda Knox, who was a witness to the interrogation and to her claim that she was slapped on the head, including other claims, who made those statements in...
Forum: Trials and Errors 18th January 2024, 12:11 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Yes. Also, it should be clear in law and...

Yes.

Also, it should be clear in law and enforced in practice that experts such as forensic analysts and medical examiners carry out tests and observations according to fair and proper methods and...
Forum: Trials and Errors 13th January 2024, 04:30 AM
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Posted By Numbers
You are noting the use of false statements made...

You are noting the use of false statements made by an Italian court - the Maresca CSC panel - to serve its unlawful and unfair purpose of justifying the wrongful conviction of Knox for calunnia...
Forum: Trials and Errors 12th January 2024, 03:38 AM
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Posted By Numbers
That appears to be true, however, apparently, the...

That appears to be true, however, apparently, the Italian news media have some access to such documents as is evident from previous posts.

Interestingly, the Italian Constitutional Court website...
Forum: Trials and Errors 11th January 2024, 04:02 PM
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Posted By Numbers
As I have posted previously, posters who have...

As I have posted previously, posters who have compared an idealized image of the US judicial system to the dysfunctions of the real Italian judicial system evidenced in the Knox - Sollecito case were...
Forum: Trials and Errors 11th January 2024, 03:39 PM
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Posted By Numbers
I believe I've found out why I can no longer...

I believe I've found out why I can no longer access the CSC (Corte Suprema di Cassazion) website.

It's been closed to unauthorized users; the only authorized users are lawyers who have received...
Forum: Trials and Errors 31st December 2023, 04:08 PM
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Posted By Numbers
I am confident that the criminal charge and civil...

I am confident that the criminal charge and civil case against Curt Knox and Edda Mellas was diffamazione (CP Article 595), not calunnia (CP Article 368). It is called "diffamazione" in a 2009...
Forum: Trials and Errors 31st December 2023, 08:51 AM
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Posted By Numbers
I'm adding information to this post to include...

I'm adding information to this post to include some additional points:

1. Clarification of the legal responsibility of the prosecutor under the Italian Constitution and Italian law.

The Italian...
Forum: Trials and Errors 31st December 2023, 12:03 AM
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Posted By Numbers
1. Note that I use the word "may" to indicate...

1. Note that I use the word "may" to indicate uncertainty.

2. According to the relevant Wikipedia article, the delay in the abuse-of-power case against Mignini that led to the case being dismissed...
Forum: Trials and Errors 30th December 2023, 07:07 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Under Italian law and the Italian Constitution, a...

Under Italian law and the Italian Constitution, a prosecutor does not have the same level of independence as one in common-law countries such as the US (or Canada or the UK, etc.), where there is a...
Forum: Trials and Errors 29th December 2023, 08:17 AM
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Posted By Numbers
This may be a valid point in some jurisdictions,...

This may be a valid point in some jurisdictions, but whether or not it would be followed in practice in the upcoming calunnia retrial is highly uncertain.

Of course, under international law - that...
Forum: Trials and Errors 28th December 2023, 06:02 PM
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Posted By Numbers
Yes, I see now that it is dated 23 November 2023....

Yes, I see now that it is dated 23 November 2023.

But perhaps the journalist has seen a pre-publication version of the MR. Otherwise, why would they claim that it had 63 pages? And the text of the...
Forum: Trials and Errors 28th December 2023, 03:47 PM
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Posted By Numbers
The Italian media article cited by TomG is of...

The Italian media article cited by TomG is of super interest. It states that the CSC MR on the CPP Article 628 bis case annulling Knox's conviction for calunnia against Lumumba has been published....
Forum: Trials and Errors 24th December 2023, 04:38 PM
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Posted By Numbers
There is no doubt that the Italian authorities...

There is no doubt that the Italian authorities minimized Guede's role in the break-in and burglary of the flat and the murder/rape of Kercher.

This was done, in large part, to support Mignini's...
Forum: Trials and Errors 23rd December 2023, 12:51 PM
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Posted By Numbers
But that is what is involved with "lying in...

But that is what is involved with "lying in wait".

For example, a burglar breaks into a residence and stays some length of time rather than merely taking valuables and fleeing.

A resident...
Forum: Trials and Errors 22nd December 2023, 03:44 PM
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Posted By Numbers
I'm not arguing that it is proven that Guede was...

I'm not arguing that it is proven that Guede was lying in wait to rape a young woman who happened to enter her apartment that he had burglarized. But it is a possibility that some people don't wish...
Forum: Trials and Errors 22nd December 2023, 09:05 AM
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Posted By Numbers
Nothing in my post that you quoted was meant to...

Nothing in my post that you quoted was meant to be humorous or satirical.

"Lying in wait" is, according to Wikipedia, a term in criminal law for the act of "hiding and waiting" for a person with...
Forum: Trials and Errors 15th December 2023, 11:20 PM
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Posted By Numbers
That could be the answer. Judge Nencini, the...

That could be the answer.

Judge Nencini, the author of a 400+ page science fiction fantasy novel that was mistakenly presented as a motivation report for the Florence Court of Appeal trial (the...
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