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Forum: Religion and Philosophy 3rd July 2020, 01:42 AM
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Posted By David Mo
<SNIP> Edited for rule rule 12. Don't...

<SNIP>
Edited for rule rule 12.

Don't waste your computer in vain. None of your arguments are definitive proof that Jesus the Galilean did not exist. There is nothing strange about a small sect...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 3rd July 2020, 01:30 AM
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Views: 194,393
Posted By David Mo
What a ridiculous exclamation!!!

What a ridiculous exclamation!!!
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th May 2020, 11:00 PM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
God is not even an explanation. It's putting an...

God is not even an explanation. It's putting an arbitrary name on what we don't know. And often he even gets a beard, which is even more ludicrous.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 14th May 2020, 10:58 PM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
Nothing. But he didn't say it. Why waste time...

Nothing. But he didn't say it. Why waste time with manipulations and provocations?
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 13th May 2020, 11:24 PM
Replies: 487
Views: 29,179
Posted By David Mo
In the last stage of his life Wittgenstein...

In the last stage of his life Wittgenstein accentuated a mystical fever that had already come to him before (specially in his youth). It seems that the mysteriousness of life began to grip him. It...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th May 2020, 10:54 PM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
Okay. The problem is that this calculated...

Okay. The problem is that this calculated ambiguity leads agnostics ("atheists" according to other denominations) to fall into the trap of "recognizing" that God does not exist cannot be proved. This...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th May 2020, 07:43 AM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
Because this is an argument that already...

Because this is an argument that already annihilated Kant in the 18th century and some (you) people still don't know.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 11th May 2020, 07:34 AM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
Very true. Besides, Sagan didn't say what the...

Very true. Besides, Sagan didn't say what the source pamphlet for this thread says. Its author has us used to this kind of crude manipulation.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 10th May 2020, 11:29 PM
Replies: 236
Views: 13,183
Posted By David Mo
To categorically deny the non-existence of...

To categorically deny the non-existence of something that has not been precisely defined is impossible. Relegating the defence of "strong" atheism - if you want to put it that way - on these grounds...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 8th May 2020, 10:36 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You don't have to take Popper literally either....

You don't have to take Popper literally either. After all, he was a philosopher and his theory on falsifiability was infalsifiable too. We must remember that he modified it several times with...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 8th May 2020, 01:58 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Watch out for Nietzsche. A few years ago, I...

Watch out for Nietzsche. A few years ago, I attended a seminar given by an expert in Dionysian cult. When someone - a philosopher, of course - asked him about Nietzsche, he shrugged and said more or...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 7th May 2020, 10:54 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I don't deny it. But you have to see that the...

I don't deny it. But you have to see that the knowledge of things has changed quite a bit since Plato.
And I add that I still enjoy reading some of Plato's dialogues... placing them in their time....
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 7th May 2020, 10:51 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Sure. I meant the idea behind the metaphor. That...

Sure. I meant the idea behind the metaphor. That man is naturally selfish and violent. This is a typical philosophical idea that Hobbes held based on what he had observed in the behavior of human...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 7th May 2020, 10:46 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
When you face to someone (alchemist or homeopath)...

When you face to someone (alchemist or homeopath) who pretends that he is doing science like the atomic physicist you will have no choice but to consider the problem of demarcation. Or the guru who...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 7th May 2020, 10:35 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I don't want to launch an argument about what...

I don't want to launch an argument about what reality is. Much less about qualia and subjectivity.
I wasn't demanding a debate on classifications and conventions.

You seem to accept the...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 7th May 2020, 10:02 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
"Original" means Plato. Doesn't it? It's a bit...

"Original" means Plato. Doesn't it?
It's a bit of an old meaning for me. Even in its time, it was corrected by Aristotle.
Anyway, tracing the origins of a word is interesting as a historical...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 6th May 2020, 09:47 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
'Hard' science? Is there a 'soft' science?...

'Hard' science? Is there a 'soft' science? Where's the difference?

I don't know why you exclude philosophy from science. The philosopher says, "Man is a wolf to man." And then he looks around and...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 6th May 2020, 09:17 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I don't quite understand. What do you mean,...

I don't quite understand. What do you mean, "create" a difference?

There's a real difference between painting my room red or white.
There is a real difference between putting an observer in the...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 6th May 2020, 01:37 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You can call things whatever you want as long as...

You can call things whatever you want as long as you make the distinctions that are given in reality.

It's one thing for you to just observe and record. For example, in group studies it is common...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 6th May 2020, 12:08 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
This shows that there are forms of knowledge that...

This shows that there are forms of knowledge that are not science and that can be useful. This is my thesis, which is otherwise quite banal. Except for the positivists who consider science to be the...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 5th May 2020, 10:28 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
The agreement is only in his head and is a...

The agreement is only in his head and is a consequence of his ignorance.
The difference between observation and experiment is a commonplace in epistemology. You will find many articles about it,...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 5th May 2020, 02:13 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Philosophy has given much ground to science since...

Philosophy has given much ground to science since the Renaissance. That means it has drifted into other branches of knowledge. Today no serious philosopher dares to question scientific knowledge in...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 5th May 2020, 02:03 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You called it experimentation and science. The...

You called it experimentation and science.
The correct thing to say is that it's observation and not science.

The difference between science and mere observation is that science is...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 5th May 2020, 12:29 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You don't want to show your cards because you're...

You don't want to show your cards because you're bluffing. You don't know how to say what science is and you try to hide your inability.

The parrot, the five-year-old, the shaman, the alchemist,...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:34 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
It's rude to answer a question with a question. ...

It's rude to answer a question with a question.
Please say what is science.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:32 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You mean that the child's attitude is a precursor...

You mean that the child's attitude is a precursor to science, but it is not science. If that's science any vaguely experiential speculation is science.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:29 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Either you tell us what you understand as science...

Either you tell us what you understand as science and experiment or you're playing with us.
Anyone who knows a bit about this knows that primitive people do not do controlled experimentation, which...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:24 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
The parrot learns by experience, but that's not...

The parrot learns by experience, but that's not science. It's a non-scientific kind of knowledge. But knowledge. And don't tell me that if the parrot can know things that aren't science, human beings...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:20 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
It's just that parrots are scientists, too, and...

It's just that parrots are scientists, too, and they don't know it. :)
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:18 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
In any case, it is not a scientific experiment.

In any case, it is not a scientific experiment.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:16 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Primitive people didn't do experiments. The...

Primitive people didn't do experiments. The scientific experiment assumes a hypothesis, a deductive device, a mathematical quantification and an exact prediction that is fulfilled under conditions...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:01 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
But I'm not saying that science isn't the surest...

But I'm not saying that science isn't the surest form of knowledge. I am saying that there are other forms of knowledge that are useful when they do not conflict with science.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 11:00 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You are right. You have to have a lot of...

You are right. You have to have a lot of patience with philosophers. Many of them love their particular jargon and are difficult to understand. But sometimes, and with some of them, it pays to be...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:57 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I do not know if the Sumerians relied on a...

I do not know if the Sumerians relied on a correlation without a materialistic causal explanation. In any case, I can assure you that they did not use the hypothetical-deductive method like current...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:54 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
When the child learns that fire burns, it is...

When the child learns that fire burns, it is unreliable knowledge? I'd say it's pretty safe. We're not posing the contradiction between science and common sense when that happens. We're asking if...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:49 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
That is not science, but another form of...

That is not science, but another form of knowledge. It does not have the social structure of science or the methods of knowledge of what is understood by modern science. Of course, if we assimilate...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:42 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I think it is a mistake to talk about Aristotle...

I think it is a mistake to talk about Aristotle in this debate. Aristotle is a part of the history of philosophy and as such should be studied from the 21st century.

When Einstein is inspired by...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:30 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Do you mean that nothing was discovered about...

Do you mean that nothing was discovered about astronomy or physics before Galileo started doing experiments? This doesn't make much sense. The Sumerians knew a lot about eclipses and didn't...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:25 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
-Is there knowledge outside of science? -This...

-Is there knowledge outside of science?
-This and that.
-But they're not science!

Are we discussing what science is, or are we discussing whether some kind of knowledge can exist outside of...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 10:15 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
A child learns a lot of things without being a...

A child learns a lot of things without being a scientist (common sense).
A friend told me that he saved a difficult stage of his life by applying what he had learned from an Ingmar Bergman's film....
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 07:11 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I'm asking who he asked the question to. If you...

I'm asking who he asked the question to. If you don't know what you were asking, it's impossible to answer.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 06:56 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
You say that from experience? Well, I'm sorry to...

You say that from experience? Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Drugs are the opposite of knowledge.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 06:53 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
What is ridiculous is that you refuse to respond...

What is ridiculous is that you refuse to respond to a simple request for clarification. Let me put it another way:
Are you thinking of something like the soul? In that case you can read my comment...
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 02:43 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Not me, of course.I don't even think that phrase...

Not me, of course.I don't even think that phrase refers to a method of knowing.
It seems to me that some people confuse philosophy with spiritism.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 02:36 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I don't understand the phrase. "More"...

I don't understand the phrase. "More" what?
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 02:34 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
That's a very absurd interpretation of my...

That's a very absurd interpretation of my settlement offer. My offer was reciprocal. You're avoiding doing your part anyway. What are you afraid of?
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 02:30 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
I didn't mention eternity. But if you want to...

I didn't mention eternity.
But if you want to avoid the total arbitrariness of the resolution of conflicts between rules, you will have to provide a criterion that allows you to decide above them....
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 4th May 2020, 02:15 AM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
Science=natural sciences? Science includes...

Science=natural sciences?
Science includes human sciences also?
In any case: common sense, philosophy, art are alternative ways to knowledge.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 3rd May 2020, 11:22 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
No, man. I'm having a little fun with your fear...

No, man. I'm having a little fun with your fear of getting caught without knowing what you're talking about.
But I have no problem giving my definition of science if you agree to give yours then.
Forum: Religion and Philosophy 3rd May 2020, 10:30 PM
Replies: 1,177
Views: 32,571
Posted By David Mo
If the rules are subjective, the law of the state...

If the rules are subjective, the law of the state is just as valid as the law of the mafia, the law of the gas chambers and the law of their victims who were demanding justice after the war. You have...
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