Dr Socks is no more

I just read some of the Guest Book comments on his obit. Man, it just sounds like a totally different person.
 
Dr. Keith said:
IIRC, some states may honor those who do particularly well, such as the highest score, but it does not appear the he was officially honored or there would likely be a cite.

*Says the guy who got drunk the night before the SAT and achieved just the score needed for early acceptance to the only school he applied to. No bias here.
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Hang on. Aren't medical degrees just like any other degrees, in that when a student graduates with honours their University bestows them with Latin honours e.g. cum laude (with honour), magna cum laude (with great honour) and summa cum laude (with highest honour)?
 
An old joke

Q: What do you call a doctor who graduates last in class?
A: Doctor.

I've never seen any Latin honors behind the name of a physician. Those may affect how quickly a medical student transitions to gainful employment, but the patients neither know nor care about those honors.
 
ApolloGnomon said:
An old joke

Q: What do you call a doctor who graduates last in class?
A: Doctor. The defendant.

I've never seen any Latin honors behind the name of a physician. Those may affect how quickly a medical student transitions to gainful employment, but the patients neither know nor care about those honors.
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Another possibility.
 
known to all for his uncanny ability to explain the most complicated issues in plain and easy to understand language.
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Based on his often incomprehensible and convoluted arguments against reality, I have to say it's two different people.
 
I'm willing to concede that the individual in question is the individual in question.

Many of us would "read" differently than we appear in meatspace. I'm not nearly as smart, nor nearly as snarky as ApolloGnomon appears to be (and those of you who think I'm an unsubtle simpleton can take the same approach to the statement above; your adjusted point-of-aim is equally valid). What's that old saying? On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog? Ain't nobody here but us chickens, as another song goes.

To his friends in meatspace he was a kind and loving soul, introspective and cognizant; To those of us who only knew him in cyberspace he was an arrogant, self-centered prick who thought he was smarter than he was able to demonstrate. How many of us come off differently in meatspace than we do on the web? All of us?

Perhaps it's just because I'm feeling old that I'm willing to cut him some slack in this regard, but at the very least can we please just let the dead stay dead? In post mortem I feel no need to resurrect the feelings of irritation and despair for him that came up when he was alive.

He may have been a dickhead, but now he's a dead dickhead. Let it go.
 
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He may have been a dickhead, but now he's a dead dickhead. Let it go.
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Pray Cthulhu that's not also my epitaph. But yes, let it go.

One hypothesis that, for me, started about a year ago when a few people discreetly contacted his alleged former employers to confirm his claims to expertise, and got a suspiciously evasive answer. What is now made more evident by his purported demise, is a possibility that he was suffering from some form of end-of-life dementia or other similar impairment, one symptom of which might have been his almost fanatical swath through conspiracism, his fixation on me and other individuals, and the other aberrant behavior.

Even if we leave aside all the mean-spiritedness, there is a fundamental curiosity to reconcile the apparent meatspace hero with the evident cyberspace villain. It's not grave-dancing. It's not morbid fascination. It's the same curiosity that drives every other human endeavor. Essentially we just want to know how and why.
 
JayUtah said:
Pray Cthulhu that's not also my epitaph. But yes, let it go.

One hypothesis that, for me, started about a year ago when a few people discreetly contacted his alleged former employers to confirm his claims to expertise, and got a suspiciously evasive answer. What is now made more evident by his purported demise, is a possibility that he was suffering from some form of end-of-life dementia or other similar impairment, one symptom of which might have been his almost fanatical swath through conspiracism, his fixation on me and other individuals, and the other aberrant behavior.

Even if we leave aside all the mean-spiritedness, there is a fundamental curiosity to reconcile the apparent meatspace hero with the evident cyberspace villain. It's not grave-dancing. It's not morbid fascination. It's the same curiosity that drives every other human endeavor. Essentially we just want to know how and why.
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Y'know, Jay, for an engineering type, you're remarkably insightful about your fellow man...
 
ApolloGnomon said:
An old joke

Q: What do you call a doctor who graduates last in class?
A: Doctor.

I've never seen any Latin honors behind the name of a physician. Those may affect how quickly a medical student transitions to gainful employment, but the patients neither know nor care about those honors.
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Off topic, but similar:
Q: What do you call a Lawyer with an IQ of 50?
A: Your Honor.
 
JayUtah said:
Pray Cthulhu that's not also my epitaph. But yes, let it go.

One hypothesis that, for me, started about a year ago when a few people discreetly contacted his alleged former employers to confirm his claims to expertise, and got a suspiciously evasive answer. What is now made more evident by his purported demise, is a possibility that he was suffering from some form of end-of-life dementia or other similar impairment, one symptom of which might have been his almost fanatical swath through conspiracism, his fixation on me and other individuals, and the other aberrant behavior.

Even if we leave aside all the mean-spiritedness, there is a fundamental curiosity to reconcile the apparent meatspace hero with the evident cyberspace villain. It's not grave-dancing. It's not morbid fascination. It's the same curiosity that drives every other human endeavor. Essentially we just want to know how and why.
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That seems to be a reasonable hypothesis. When he was actively participating in the Apollo Hoax thread, I would have bet a significant amount of money that he wasn't actually an MD. It's probably a good thing I didn't.
 
CORed said:
That seems to be a reasonable hypothesis. When he was actively participating in the Apollo Hoax thread, I would have bet a significant amount of money that he wasn't actually an MD. It's probably a good thing I didn't.
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He may have once been a legitimate, skilled MD. But dementia (assuming that's what it was) takes its toll everywhere, including one's professional knowledge. So both can be true. He can be praised for a successful career in medicine one day, and the next day display a completely distorted recollection of medical science.
 
Socks Rocked

For all of the doubters, haters,instigators conspiracy creators wanna be's,
retired generals open minded or so uptight you can't feel the light this post could be the most important of all of our lives. I am Fatty Dash's big brother,Skinny Splash. Every single word of my brother's obituary is true! Dang! I guess he really had y'all going. I seldom read what he wrote in his blogs and never understood the thrill he got from being out numbered hundreds to one regarding his stance on the issues. I do now after reading through the responses to "Dr. Socks is no more". I as Patty Big Potatoes( another name he used) had a fantastic sense of humor as well as a genius IQ. I suppose he needed all the adversity because with comments like"urinating on his ashes", low brow, " The guy was a congenital idiot." phiwum are you some relative that
I don't know about who can back up that statement, weak, and what is this suppose to mean, " at best he may have found a namesake whose details he borrowed." No wonder the world is so screwed up with this type of love and respect being spewed into the universe pardon me the multiverse!

Fatty Facts: He not only graduated in the top 3% of his UC Berkeley Class but did the same at Vanderbilt University's School of Medicine! He was called to the Dean's office at Vanderbilt and told,"Swimming and Piano playin' does not a doctor make"! Another jealous Skeptic!
He swam 5 miles a day most of his life, he big wave surfed quite often in Hawaii and San Francisco. We the Amazing Tekeli Bros had been performing bluegrass music since our early teens. He was a incredible Banjo player that corresponded with the late great jazz guitarist Joe Pass. They discussed chord melody and Jazz on the banjo! His 1st instrument trumpet he also dabbled with trombone. An innovative Piano player and composer! Oh yes I must go on and on and on like he did because all of you Skeptics MUST realize you had the real McCoy here sparring with you. He was fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese, Italian, A math whiz! As far as a doctor there was none better! Read the entries in his Legacy Obits that will run for ever or at least until OUR own government exterminates us all. His name Dr. Tea came from his love of China where he visited almost every or every other year! He did pay for the award winning bicycle to be built ,he also designed it with riding the hills of San Francisco in mind, The bike weighs only 17 1/2 pounds and cost $11,000, he made that dream come true. He made thousands of dreams come true for thousands of people. Generous to a fault with the combo to the vault! I have never met a more giving person. Everyone who crossed his path benefited!
Oh yes there is the matter of the keys to the city of San Francisco, he did indeed receive the keys along with another doctor for their work with the aids epidemic! In fact the Mayor at the time Frank Jordan named that day Patrick Tekeli Day. Can I be skeptical now I doubt any of y'all can boast that distinction, Keys to one of the most beautiful cities in the world for cleaning up another mess created by the NWO. Ok I read the rules here but I didn't see anything about not outing the creeps responsible for Ebolagate. As Patrick rolls over in his urine soaked ashes realizing yes Apollo was the weakest link in their armor.We will all be wishing Pat was here to help sort out Ebolagate! Every single word is true , I swear on a stack of Rolling Stones records!

Skinny Splash
 
I'm sorry for your loss. And your brother picked a mean banjo, and I'm sure he was as accomplished as you say.

In light of the latter, I'm particularly befuddled and, I might say, saddened, that he chose to denigrate one of our generation's, not to mention all of mankind's, greatest achievements. I sincerely hope it was out of some overly-puckish sense of humor, rather than illness.
 
Skinny Splash said:
I suppose he needed all the adversity because with comments like"urinating on his ashes", low brow, " The guy was a congenital idiot." phiwum are you some relative that I don't know about who can back up that statement, weak, and what is this suppose to mean, " at best he may have found a namesake whose details he borrowed."
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You seem to be confused. I never called the deceased an idiot -- at least not in this thread, and not to my recollection in any other thread.
 
Skinny Splash said:
For all of the doubters, haters,instigators conspiracy creators wanna be's,...
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Don't care.

He didn't know a single correct thing about the subject he chose to write on here, and refused all manner of accountability for it. You speak at length about his professional and personal achievements elsewhere. However here his activity was centered entirely around calling my trained and licensed profession a lie, all the while demonstrating just how little he knew of it.

Take your feeble plea for sympathy elsewhere. It's unwanted and irrelevant.
 
I wanna know where this guy was all the while his brother was making a fool of himself all over the Internet. If he's so concerned about his brother's reputation, he had plenty of time to do something about it before he became a laughingstock.
 
phiwum said:
You seem to be confused. I never called the deceased an idiot -- at least not in this thread, and not to my recollection in any other thread.
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You didn't.

Skeptic-PK did in post #2 of this thread.

You quoted and disagreed with that in post #4 of this thread.

So the question really is, "Did the reading comprehension demonstrated by Dr. Socks have a genetic component?".
 
JayUtah said:
I wanna know where this guy was all the while his brother was making a fool of himself all over the Internet. If he's so concerned about his brother's reputation, he had plenty of time to do something about it before he became a laughingstock.
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On American Idol, and other talent shows, we are often treated to a parade of musically talentless folks that would have benefited at some point by those closest to them telling them that they should focus their efforts on their strengths instead of areas where they haven't proven themselves capable. Instead, those closest to them lambast the critics for pointing out the lack of talent.

Heroes and brothers sometimes have feet of clay.

However, if one thinks that the NWO is some extant thing to be railed at, well I think that one has some own critical introspection to take care of before becoming their brother's keeper.
 
Skinny Splash said:
Fatty Facts: He not only graduated in the top 3% of his UC Berkeley Class but did the same at Vanderbilt University's School of Medicine! He was called to the Dean's office at Vanderbilt and told,"Swimming and Piano playin' does not a doctor make"! Another jealous Skeptic!
He swam 5 miles a day most of his life, he big wave surfed quite often in Hawaii and San Francisco. We the Amazing Tekeli Bros had been performing bluegrass music since our early teens. He was a incredible Banjo player that corresponded with the late great jazz guitarist Joe Pass. They discussed chord melody and Jazz on the banjo! His 1st instrument trumpet he also dabbled with trombone. An innovative Piano player and composer! Oh yes I must go on and on and on like he did because all of you Skeptics MUST realize you had the real McCoy here sparring with you. He was fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese, Italian, A math whiz! As far as a doctor there was none better! Read the entries in his Legacy Obits that will run for ever or at least until OUR own government exterminates us all. His name Dr. Tea came from his love of China where he visited almost every or every other year! He did pay for the award winning bicycle to be built ,he also designed it with riding the hills of San Francisco in mind, The bike weighs only 17 1/2 pounds and cost $11,000, he made that dream come true. He made thousands of dreams come true for thousands of people. Generous to a fault with the combo to the vault! I have never met a more giving person. Everyone who crossed his path benefited!
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Being intelligent, well educated, a musical a prodigy and a generous benefactor does not make a person immune from stupid. History is rife with people who were brilliant and at the same time stupid.

"A scientist outside his own field thinks no better than the average sixth grader… like the rest of us."
- George O. Smith
 
Skinny Splash said:
For all of the doubters, haters,instigators conspiracy creators wanna be's,
retired generals open minded or so uptight you can't feel the light this post could be the most important of all of our lives. I am Fatty Dash's big brother,Skinny Splash. Every single word of my brother's obituary is true! Dang! I guess he really had y'all going. I seldom read what he wrote in his blogs and never understood the thrill he got from being out numbered hundreds to one regarding his stance on the issues. I do now after reading through the responses to "Dr. Socks is no more". I as Patty Big Potatoes( another name he used) had a fantastic sense of humor as well as a genius IQ. I suppose he needed all the adversity because with comments like"urinating on his ashes", low brow, " The guy was a congenital idiot." phiwum are you some relative that
I don't know about who can back up that statement, weak, and what is this suppose to mean, " at best he may have found a namesake whose details he borrowed." No wonder the world is so screwed up with this type of love and respect being spewed into the universe pardon me the multiverse!

Fatty Facts: He not only graduated in the top 3% of his UC Berkeley Class but did the same at Vanderbilt University's School of Medicine! He was called to the Dean's office at Vanderbilt and told,"Swimming and Piano playin' does not a doctor make"! Another jealous Skeptic!
He swam 5 miles a day most of his life, he big wave surfed quite often in Hawaii and San Francisco. We the Amazing Tekeli Bros had been performing bluegrass music since our early teens. He was a incredible Banjo player that corresponded with the late great jazz guitarist Joe Pass. They discussed chord melody and Jazz on the banjo! His 1st instrument trumpet he also dabbled with trombone. An innovative Piano player and composer! Oh yes I must go on and on and on like he did because all of you Skeptics MUST realize you had the real McCoy here sparring with you. He was fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese, Italian, A math whiz! As far as a doctor there was none better! Read the entries in his Legacy Obits that will run for ever or at least until OUR own government exterminates us all. His name Dr. Tea came from his love of China where he visited almost every or every other year! He did pay for the award winning bicycle to be built ,he also designed it with riding the hills of San Francisco in mind, The bike weighs only 17 1/2 pounds and cost $11,000, he made that dream come true. He made thousands of dreams come true for thousands of people. Generous to a fault with the combo to the vault! I have never met a more giving person. Everyone who crossed his path benefited!
Oh yes there is the matter of the keys to the city of San Francisco, he did indeed receive the keys along with another doctor for their work with the aids epidemic! In fact the Mayor at the time Frank Jordan named that day Patrick Tekeli Day. Can I be skeptical now I doubt any of y'all can boast that distinction, Keys to one of the most beautiful cities in the world for cleaning up another mess created by the NWO. Ok I read the rules here but I didn't see anything about not outing the creeps responsible for Ebolagate. As Patrick rolls over in his urine soaked ashes realizing yes Apollo was the weakest link in their armor.We will all be wishing Pat was here to help sort out Ebolagate! Every single word is true , I swear on a stack of Rolling Stones records!

Skinny Splash
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In the water or above it?
 
Pardon my error phiwum it was Sceptic-PK who done it! I was rather upset finding this site , I had been on the previous site but I never saw the reaction to my brother's passing in this forum, I suppose it was a game to him , I myself go on my gut feelings ,he was a scientist and you think he talked about the moon all the time well he did. He also obtained every Life Magazine, National Geographic etc. from the Apollo years as well as what I believe a very comprehensive collection of books about the moon over 300 volumes as well as boxes and boxes of DVDs,CDs, etc. I am saving the entire collection and donating it to the Smithsonian or perhaps at the Dr.Pat's Institute for the Advancement of Lunar Communication! I apologize phiwum!
 
Skinny Splash said:
For all of the doubters, haters,instigators conspiracy creators wanna be's,
retired generals open minded or so uptight you can't feel the light this post could be the most important of all of our lives. I am Fatty Dash's big brother,Skinny Splash. Every single word of my brother's obituary is true! Dang! I guess he really had y'all going. I seldom read what he wrote in his blogs and never understood the thrill he got from being out numbered hundreds to one regarding his stance on the issues. I do now after reading through the responses to "Dr. Socks is no more". I as Patty Big Potatoes( another name he used) had a fantastic sense of humor as well as a genius IQ. I suppose he needed all the adversity because with comments like"urinating on his ashes", low brow, " The guy was a congenital idiot." phiwum are you some relative that
I don't know about who can back up that statement, weak, and what is this suppose to mean, " at best he may have found a namesake whose details he borrowed." No wonder the world is so screwed up with this type of love and respect being spewed into the universe pardon me the multiverse!

Fatty Facts: He not only graduated in the top 3% of his UC Berkeley Class but did the same at Vanderbilt University's School of Medicine! He was called to the Dean's office at Vanderbilt and told,"Swimming and Piano playin' does not a doctor make"! Another jealous Skeptic!
He swam 5 miles a day most of his life, he big wave surfed quite often in Hawaii and San Francisco. We the Amazing Tekeli Bros had been performing bluegrass music since our early teens. He was a incredible Banjo player that corresponded with the late great jazz guitarist Joe Pass. They discussed chord melody and Jazz on the banjo! His 1st instrument trumpet he also dabbled with trombone. An innovative Piano player and composer! Oh yes I must go on and on and on like he did because all of you Skeptics MUST realize you had the real McCoy here sparring with you. He was fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese, Italian, A math whiz! As far as a doctor there was none better! Read the entries in his Legacy Obits that will run for ever or at least until OUR own government exterminates us all. His name Dr. Tea came from his love of China where he visited almost every or every other year! He did pay for the award winning bicycle to be built ,he also designed it with riding the hills of San Francisco in mind, The bike weighs only 17 1/2 pounds and cost $11,000, he made that dream come true. He made thousands of dreams come true for thousands of people. Generous to a fault with the combo to the vault! I have never met a more giving person. Everyone who crossed his path benefited!
Oh yes there is the matter of the keys to the city of San Francisco, he did indeed receive the keys along with another doctor for their work with the aids epidemic! In fact the Mayor at the time Frank Jordan named that day Patrick Tekeli Day. Can I be skeptical now I doubt any of y'all can boast that distinction, Keys to one of the most beautiful cities in the world for cleaning up another mess created by the NWO. Ok I read the rules here but I didn't see anything about not outing the creeps responsible for Ebolagate. As Patrick rolls over in his urine soaked ashes realizing yes Apollo was the weakest link in their armor.We will all be wishing Pat was here to help sort out Ebolagate! Every single word is true , I swear on a stack of Rolling Stones records!

Skinny Splash
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Your brother may have been a genius when it came to AIDS medicine and cycling and swimming and Chinese, but he was pretty much an idiot when it came to the Apollo missions, unable to accept the facts.
 
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Skinny Splash said:
As for sts60 and MR. JayUtah. J your name I know , Patrick mentioned you often (even though Pat's mother and I were absolutely mooned out, we would plead with him to"Come down off the moon"). He'd say ,"Dang! That JayUtah!" Hinting that you were a formidable foil. I will have to read your work . While my brother was standing on his cyber soap box having a good time , I was caring for our gravely ill mother who died 100 days after Pat!
(Now I am looking for the sympathy Jay) sts60 your profile picture brings only one image to mind "the Jetsons" so for obvious reasons , I can't take you seriously
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I don't care if you think your brother was "having a good time" maligning my profession and its achievements from a position of unrepentant ignorance. To me that only shows how little you know of his actual nature and how ill-equipped you are to eulogize him.

Do not seek for sympathy here.

Whatever your brother's achievements elsewhere among others, he had no such reputation here. You mourned him elsewhere and celebrated his life. But he brought none of those qualities here, and among these people here he was only a laughingstock.

I don't believe in speaking well of the dead simply because they are dead. The words I wrote long ago in this thread are the kindest you will hear from me on the subject of your brother. No matter how much you care to vaunt his reputation, you will engender no admiration for him here, and to seek it is insulting. Patrick Tekeli chose to crap publicly all over Neil Armstrong's obituary in The Economist, so in my judgment he's getting far better than he deserves already.
 
Craig4 said:
Did you perhaps suggest to him that he not squander his legacy on something so meaningless and about which he was incorrect?
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I think it's apparent that Michael Tekeli considers his brother's conspiracism a favorable addendum to Patrick's "philanthropy." Others have suggested that familial blindness allowed them to ignore the fool Patrick was making of himself in public. That's as may be, but I think Michael is simply cut from the same cloth. (No, that's not a veiled accusation of sock-puppetry.) I think he fully admires his brother's ignorant foray into the history of space exploration and considers Patrick's accusations harmless fun.

That's what really underscores the hypocrisy of coming to a place where Patrick disgraced himself so thoroughly and trying to use the nostalgia of his dead brother to shame Patrick's critics. I suggest if Michael wants to preserve only the memory of his brother as a philanthropist, he stay far, far away from anyplace Patrick debated online. The hypocrisy lies in demanding respect for the memory of his brother based on his alleged accomplishments among people whose own skills, knowledge, and accomplishments were the target of his brother's ignorant rants.
 
Dr. Socks lied so often (and yet, despite all that practice, so incompetently), one would not put it beyond him to lie even about his own demise. Certainly, at least part of his obituary (being some sort of physicist) was a ridiculous falsehood. (Shrug) It doesn't matter; I'm no more interested in the extended dance remix of his egotistical online blithering than I was in the original release, whomever the self-styled artist.
 
Didn't Dr. Socks admit there were times others posted as him in some weird tag team trolling? I seem to recall some such silliness.
 
Wolrab said:
Didn't Dr. Socks admit there were times others posted as him in some weird tag team trolling? I seem to recall some such silliness.
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Oh yes, at one point he was posing as a doctor in the same room as him posting on his behalf.
Sockception.
 
My recollection of Patrick Tekeli is of a man who divided his time between relentlessly promoting an ignorant hoax belief and complaining about how he was treated by others. He promoted himself with deception and a complete disregard for rationality. That is the legacy of his time here and on other forums.

Michael, your attempt to repair that legacy could have been admirable if you had not started down the same path right from the start. Now you have simply assumed his mantle.
 
Pooneil said:
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Indeed. Patrick is not entitled to a falsely favorable reputation. Nor is Michael entitled to acknowledge that his brother did indeed behave like an ass, but then expect everyone else just to take it in stride.

Michael, your attempt to repair that legacy could have been admirable if you had not started down the same path right from the start. Now you have simply assumed his mantle.
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Indeed, the "How dare you speak evil of my saintly brother!" routine falls pretty flat when it's followed up immediately by exactly the same sort of manipulative nonsense Patrick stooped to. You gotta love the hypocrisy of people who think their rattling the cage is merely "playful" but then apply labels like "toxic and mean" to anyone who responds predictably.

Every conspiracy theorist thinks he's so clever and original by sneaking into the debate like that -- in exactly the same way as every other conspiracy theorist.
 
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