Hillary Clinton is Done: part 4

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Tony Stark said:
I can see why they would prefer not to believe that the guy they picked for the job is trying to influence the election. Or maybe they're just saying that because otherwise would demand that they fire him right away, and they would rather do it after the election. Or let Hillary do it.
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Or instead of all that stuff you just said:

The president's assessment of his integrity and his character has not changed," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters during the daily briefing. "The president does not believe that Director Comey is intentionally trying to influence the outcome of an election. The president does not believe that he is secretly strategizing to benefit one candidate or one political party."
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The Big Dog said:
Oh dear....

Seeing as Obama debunked the Shillaries' conspiracy theory, I'd be surprised if they didn't just drop it, but who knows.
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Having a difference of opinion is not debunking. I do think they will drop it though. At least until after the election.
 
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
 
Tony Stark said:
You don't think it is possible that Obama would prefer to not believe he made a huge mistake by hiring Comey? Or that they might want to wait to fire him or to let Hillary do it if she wants?
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Maybe Comey has evidence that Obama wasn't born in the US or that he is a Muslim terrorist.:o
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
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I will remember to mock you when you are proven wrong.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
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What is it with the fascination with numbers?

I'll bet more than 50% of the emails are of the DoNotReply variety from IT Support.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
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Seems Huma's been laying low the last couple days, for some odd reason. Wonder if she'll show up in a morgue before it's all over. :eek:
 
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Tony Stark said:
Do you deny that the story being all over the news could influence some people not to vote for her?
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We are talking about influence right? So a conversation separate from the hatch act more specifically?

I think the color of his tie can also influence some people. When we discuss these things, there should probably be a line we use to group the reasonable to the patently ridiculous. Because right now, he is as culpable for influencing people as dominoes "avoid the noid" campaign is for setting off one crazy person.
 
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Oh and BobTheCoward, Fast Eddie B is a Republican (I think), who was on the fence about voting for Hillary or not voting. He appears to not be anymore because of this.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
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I will bet you $1.00 that you are wrong.
 
Biscuit said:
Just common sense would tell you that if someone uses multiple devices to view the same email account you won't find different emails on each device.
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Common sense would tell you that some of the 33,000 emails Hillary decided to delete may have been saved on the device found in Wiener's residence, giving the FBI all the reason they need to reopen the investigation because they found emails they previously had no access to.
 
Tony Stark said:
Oh and BobTheCoward, Fast Eddie B is a Republican (I think), who was on the fence about voting for Hillary or not voting. He appears to not be anymore because of this.
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We can't shut down perfectly inoffensive speech because the irrational have a heckler's veto.
 
Bogative said:
Common sense would tell you that some of the 33,000 emails Hillary decided to delete may have been saved on the device found in Wiener's residence, giving the FBI all the reason they need to reopen the investigation because they found emails they previously had no access to.
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Actually no. That isn't common sense at all. Why would anyone do that? If there is incriminating evidence, you ERASE it. You don't save it elsewhere. For the life of me, I can't imagine what they will find. Logic on this doesn't really apply. The available data doesn't call for any conclusions.

What you are doing is wildly speculating. Which is inherently the problem with Comey's letter.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
We can't shut down perfectly inoffensive speech because the irrational have a heckler's veto.
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Sure we can if they work for the FBI and have no good reason for their speech. Comey did not have a good reason to tell Congress before even reviewing the emails. And he most certainly knew that Republicans would immediately use it to attempt to harm Hillary and that it would be all over the news.
 
Tony Stark said:
Sure we can if they work for the FBI and have no good reason for their speech. Comey did not have a good reason to tell Congress before even reviewing the emails. And he most certainly knew that Republicans would immediately use it to attempt to harm Hillary and that it would be all over the news.
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I disagree. I think that should be absolutely acceptable.
 
acbytesla said:
Actually no. That isn't common sense at all. Why would anyone do that? If there is incriminating evidence, you ERASE it. You don't save it elsewhere. For the life of me, I can't imagine what they will find. Logic on this doesn't really apply. The available data doesn't call for any conclusions.

What you are doing is wildly speculating. Which is inherently the problem with Comey's letter.
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It's rather like the EIGHT Benghazi investigations, simply going over the same ground again and again. Unless we assume that Clinton actually was handing out classified information like, well, dick pics, then I cannot see what this is going to change. On the other hand a presidential candidate who has the Russians doing favours for them...
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I predict that somewhere in the 650,000 (!) emails on Weiner's laptop is a smoking gun email that will lead to charges against Huma, Hillary or both.

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it was much ado about nothing and I was wrong.
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It appears the Director Commey's letter has influenced at least one person.

FYI even the Director has said only a small portion of the 650K could possibly be related to Clinton.


Bogative said:
Common sense would tell you that some of the 33,000 emails Hillary decided to delete may have been saved on the device found in Wiener's residence, giving the FBI all the reason they need to reopen the investigation because they found emails they previously had no access to.
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Hillary didn't delete any emails.

Common sense tells me the Director's actions on Friday, before the FBI even had legal access to the device in question yet alone read a single email, was intended to create the type of wild speculation and misinformation you posted.
 
Garrison said:
It's rather like the EIGHT Benghazi investigations, simply going over the same ground again and again. Unless we assume that Clinton actually was handing out classified information like, well, dick pics, then I cannot see what this is going to change. On the other hand a presidential candidate who has the Russians doing favours for them...
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She was
 
acbytesla said:
Actually no. That isn't common sense at all. Why would anyone do that? If there is incriminating evidence, you ERASE it. You don't save it elsewhere. For the life of me, I can't imagine what they will find. Logic on this doesn't really apply.
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I guess the same reason they would set up a private server in their home and send classified emails on it – they're not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.


The available data doesn't call for any conclusions.

What you are doing is wildly speculating. Which is inherently the problem with Comey's letter.
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Not necessarily. Law enforcement sources told the Wall Street Journal that there could be thousands of emails, according to the metadata.

The FBI would not have to know what the emails contain to know that they never had access to them simply by comparing sender/receiver, time and dates to emails they previously examined.
 
Tony Stark said:
Comey disagrees. Too close to the election he said. Oddly the election didn't prevent him from writing that letter to Congress weeks later. I wonder why.
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I don't care what he thinks. It doesn't influence what I think is appropriate to announce.
 
My father and brother seem unaffected by Comey's move and believe Clinton should still coast to victory. I see a drop in the betting markets (Clinton is still favored) and polling, and I'm not so sure what the week will bring. I expect her to win, but it will be unnecessarily close.
 
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