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Old 10th November 2017, 02:49 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by psionl0 View Post
The "Hare-Clark" system (multi-member electorates with voting in each electorate counted using PR) is indeed an improvement on single member electorates. However it is not immune to gerrymandering and in states like California with its 57 EC votes it would be a nightmare. Filling out yard long ballot papers has always been a problem in Australia. MMP is totally gerrymander proof and still allows voters to vote for the candidate of their choice in individual electorates (who may be from a different party than the one that they vote for).

MMP could easily be adapted in the US for presidential elections (maybe just voting for the national candidate instead of a candidate/party vote). If you didn't want faceless people from an electoral college making the final determination then you could always do what they do in France - hold a runoff election if no candidate gets an absolute majority of EC votes.
Any system can be a nightmare if it is not implemented well. MMP still elects "party hacks" who the voters do not want. You still have single member electorates where you might not like any electable candidate. Though it is a vast improvement on single electorate systems used by most of the world.

In the ACT and Tasmania the ballot papers are not that big. It works well as there is not a vast difference between different areas.

Of course you could combine the two systems.
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