Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 24

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Biden SHOULD agree to it. It's just Trump trying to create an excuse to get out of the debate.
Not going to make a long-term avatar bet, but I figure there's no way Trump will participate in a debate under any circumstances, drug test or no.
 
There are going to be so many books about the Trump administration written in the years to come trying to explain what the hell happened. I don't know what genre they will fall into: non-fiction or horror.
 
pgwenthold said:
Mr. Projection strikes again.

Of course Biden won't agree to that. It's blithering idiocy.

The question is, would a drug test detect Sudafed?
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There are different kinds of drug tests. If they administered the same kind of drug tests that Olympic athletes face, they would detect almost anything, including all the drugs that Trump has been suspected of using. Maybe Biden should agree, provided that the test is administered by the FBI. I'll bet Trump would scream "deep state" and back out quick.
 
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SezMe said:
The second one, in particular, is interesting. However, I wonder how much contradiction one would find by going over 12 years of MSNBC. My bias is a lot less, but it is ... well, a bias.
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The difference is that Fox has an indisputable agenda. MSNBC is still fact-based. They don't promote outright lies.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
"I am being accused of needing drugs to appear even remotely lucid when making extended public appearances. Although my malignant narcissism forbids me from extending a compliment to anyone unless it reflects even better on me, I am forced to admit that my opponent displayed a level of adroit statesmanship which is entirely out of my league. By the converse property of presidential debate, he must therefore have been on drugs."
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:D :thumbsup:
 
Babbylonian said:
Translation: We're too lazy to bother training our staff on the very reasonable, basic regulations regarding the use of personal data belonging to Europeans. We're also going to continue using our cookies to steal as much private information as we can manage.

My yearly GDPR training happened a week ago. It took almost an hour to communicate this: Hey, *******, secure people's personal data when they give it to you and don't use it for anything without their consent. **** this up and the EU will have your ass!

Frankly, a US GDPR should be the first goddamn thing the Democrats do if they can get control of this government back. It won't happen, of course, corporate influence being what it is, but we need it badly.
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When I did it last year It was over in about half hour. It literally is as you say it is. Don't leave customers personal info lying around, this is what happens if you screw up.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You have to read between the lines.

Donny's miffed because the fake news is reporting how great the Democratic Convention was including Biden's speech and the GOP Convention including Donny's performance isn't getting good ratings.
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I don't really read US media so it's interesting to see comments like this, thanks.
 
SezMe said:
The second one, in particular, is interesting. However, I wonder how much contradiction one would find by going over 12 years of MSNBC. My bias is a lot less, but it is ... well, a bias.
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Not much. Definitely nothing like that at Fox. For one reason, MSNBC doesn't report like that, more badmouthing than news or information.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Most of those false positives are with pee-in-a-cup screening tests. Actual lab tests done right can clarify true vs false results.
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I'm fairly certain Presidential aspirants can handle that.

Slight derail, for us mortals, they usually use 2 specimen vials.

Many things can trigger an initial positive of the cheap screening test. The test that specifies the offending contaminant is much more expensive. Depending on the nature of the agreement (court ordered, employer mandated, whatever) one could potentially be told they must fork over hundreds of dollars to get them to open the second vial and run the expensive test to challenge an initial positive.
 
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Hair tests detect narcotics for longer periods than blood or urine. Only the length of the hair limits the time the narcotic can be detected. Although it cannot be used to determine if drugs were ingested on that day, it can show past drug use.
 
The Biden campaign should respond like so...

We will not allow President Trump to worm his way out of the debates. It's important voters get a clear understanding of <boilerplate goes here>.

Accordingly, we agree to this absurd drug test. Because the president wants fairness, we're sure he'll agree to our requirements that: (1) the tests will be administered by the FBI (2) blood test and hair tests will be conducted, making it harder to cheat and (3) tests must cover <list of drugs Trump has been accused of abusing> and any other substance the Trump campaign deems important.

We also welcome a mental acuity test and a bike race.​
 
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Also a syphilis test, as Trump's mental craziness grows it makes the inherited syphilis theory look more likely.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Just looked over the old vs the new Rose Garden because I thought people were exaggerating how bad the new is.

Before and after photos of Melania Trump's Rose Garden renovation


Here Are The Before And After Photos Of Melania Trump's White House Rose Garden Renovations

She removed the majority of the blossoming trees, took out all the colorful tulips and put in a lot of white somethings, (roses I guess).
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The photo from above makes it look as if the turf was taken up and relaid really badly. Not sure any of this is newsworthy (lady does gardening), but I’ve commented on it so I don’t get to judge.
 
varwoche said:
The Biden campaign should respond like so...

We will not allow President Trump to worm his way out of the debates. It's important voters get a clear understanding of <boilerplate goes here>.

Accordingly, we agree to this absurd drug test. Because the president wants fairness, we're sure he'll agree to our requirements that: (1) the tests will be administered by the FBI (2) blood test and hair tests will be conducted, making it harder to cheat and (3) tests must cover <list of drugs Trump has been accused of abusing> and any other substance the Trump campaign deems important.

We also welcome a mental acuity test and a bike race.​
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Trump has probably never been on a bicycle, moving or stationary, in his life.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Just looked over the old vs the new Rose Garden because I thought people were exaggerating how bad the new is.

Before and after photos of Melania Trump's Rose Garden renovation


Here Are The Before And After Photos Of Melania Trump's White House Rose Garden Renovations

She removed the majority of the blossoming trees, took out all the colorful tulips and put in a lot of white somethings, (roses I guess).
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If she'd let it go to weeds, it wouldn't look much worse.
 
Stacyhs said:
There are going to be so many books about the Trump administration written in the years to come trying to explain what the hell happened. I don't know what genre they will fall into: non-fiction or horror.
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Both.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
My take:
He's reacting to the criticism Donny Jr and Kimmy were high on drugs and maybe he's projecting a bit because he himself uses adderall to boost his brain. He probably expects Biden to laugh it off. Biden should go for it as long as adderall is included in the test and a neutral party runs the testing.
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That makes sense (in as much as one can make sense of any of his thoughts, actions, and beliefs).

I think an even simpler reason is that he wants to plant as many rumors as he can. He knows these get spread all over that Facebook thing. I fear a measurable number of Americans get their news from their friends’ feeds.

And he knows that many of his followers will never stop to ask, “what drugs allow one to debate better? And why is it cheating to use them?”
 
Stacyhs said:
There are going to be so many books about the Trump administration written in the years to come trying to explain what the hell happened. I don't know what genre they will fall into: non-fiction or horror.
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I kind of figured that there would be enough books that they would get their own section.

And I am still trying to predict whether universities will simply offer classes in Trumpism or if they will offer it as a major.


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I want to change my answer about non-fiction vs horror. Neither, they will be placed in True-Life Crime.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Just looked over the old vs the new Rose Garden because I thought people were exaggerating how bad the new is.
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Remember the red Christmas trees?

Stacyhs said:
Hair tests detect narcotics for longer periods than blood or urine. Only the length of the hair limits the time the narcotic can be detected. Although it cannot be used to determine if drugs were ingested on that day, it can show past drug use.
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But for that you need real hair.
 
Trebuchet said:
...I figure there's no way Trump will participate in a debate under any circumstances, drug test or no.
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I figure there are 2 reasons why he WOULD participate in a debate...

1) he thinks he can win. Granted, he's an idiot, and will likely lose to Biden (as Trump lost to Clinton). But, his ego probably makes him think otherwise.

2) He's trailing in the polls. Usually the candidate that is behind wants to have as many debates as possible, in an attempt to catch the front-runner (hoping they make a mistake.)
 
johnny karate said:
How are we defining “hyperbolic generalizing”?

Trump does openly racist things and is currently enjoying a 90% approval rating among Republicans.
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It's been obvious ever since he started spouting that racist birther crap - and republicans immediately began to favor him for the presidency. In 2011. If the GOP writ large is not a white supremacy political group, they sure do an excellent job looking exactly like one.
 
Segnosaur said:
I figure there are 2 reasons why he WOULD participate in a debate...

1) he thinks he can win. Granted, he's an idiot, and will likely lose to Biden (as Trump lost to Clinton). But, his ego probably makes him think otherwise.

2) He's trailing in the polls. Usually the candidate that is behind wants to have as many debates as possible, in an attempt to catch the front-runner (hoping they make a mistake.)
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I remember the Clinton-Trump debates. Clinton wiped the floor with him. He still 'won' the election.

 
Segnosaur said:
I figure there are 2 reasons why he WOULD participate in a debate...

1) he thinks he can win. Granted, he's an idiot, and will likely lose to Biden (as Trump lost to Clinton). But, his ego probably makes him think otherwise.

2) He's trailing in the polls. Usually the candidate that is behind wants to have as many debates as possible, in an attempt to catch the front-runner (hoping they make a mistake.)
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3) Whatever happens in the debates, he has at least a few trusted friends in the media who will frame it as a win. If he spends the entire debate smearing feces on studio walls and Biden coughs once, Hannity will have "Is Biden well?" as the #1 story.
 
Trump's former Assistant Secretary for Threat Prevention in the DHS, who voted for Trump in 2016 because of "the pro-life issue" says she's voting against him this year because of his bolstering of white nationalism and his prevention of the members of his administration who tried to prepare for covid:

 
Stacyhs said:
There are going to be so many books about the Trump administration written in the years to come trying to explain what the hell happened. I don't know what genre they will fall into: non-fiction or horror.
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The two can both be true.

SezMe said:
The second one, in particular, is interesting. However, I wonder how much contradiction one would find by going over 12 years of MSNBC. My bias is a lot less, but it is ... well, a bias.
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Fairly certainly a lot less. Bias does exist, but... it's well worth remembering that the MSM (and democrats in general) are held to a dramatically higher standard and use a fundamentally different business model when it comes to how they attract and maintain an audience compared to Fox and far right media outlets.

carlitos said:
That makes no sense. One of the Trump supporters tweeted something like this too. I don’t get it.

“In Biden’s America, there will be riots in the streets.”

Vs

“In Donald Trump’s actual America, there are riots in the streets”
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What doesn't make sense about it? A heck of a lot of what actual riots and violence there is is directly being done by Trump supporters - and that remains true even if you take the overly aggressive police officers out of the equation.

For example - the Kenosha shooter was photographed sitting in front row of Trump rally in January. Oh, and something darkly unsurprising happened in relation to that. Tucker Carlson. Tucker argues that white militia guy accused murderer of protesters was trying 'to maintain order'. This is another link that pokes at that, too.

It's well worth remembering that there's a disturbing subset of Trump's base that Trump parders to in particular - white supremacists and that, well... feel free to listen to Elizabeth Neumann, another Trump official, on that. Not that she's a particularly good person, but... well, there are a lot of white supremacists actively gunning for a race war and it's a fairly normal tactic for them to try to turn peaceful protests into riots.

Skeptic Ginger said:
Another anti-gay gay guy in the GOP. What a surprise.
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Mildly related -

House Republicans urge 'outside groups' to attack Democratic candidate's sexual orientation
 
Aridas said:
Stacyhs said:
There are going to be so many books about the Trump administration written in the years to come trying to explain what the hell happened. I don't know what genre they will fall into: non-fiction or horror.
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The two can both be true.

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Indeed.

In sad fact, when it comes to historical non-fiction of the unfiltered, un-hagiographic sort it is the case more often than not.
 
Segnosaur said:
Taking the diplomatic path, Trump cabinet minister attacks Canada.

From: Windsor Star
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro is taking some unprovoked swipes at Canada...He suggests Canada’s decade-long mission, which cost the lives of 158 Canadian soldiers, was motivated more by a desire to curry favour with the U.S. than to support the global fight against terrorism.

The U.S. was the main target on 9/11. Canada joined in the military action, in part due to our membership in NATO.

And we are attacked by a member of the Trump administration.
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And this is something you can take pride in. We have reached the stage where being attacked by someone in Trump's circle of brown-nosers and sycophants can be viewed as a badge of honor.

Congratulations.
 
shemp said:
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Hey, it's your own fault for being a foreigner!
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A VPN with servers in other countries is a useful option.

It may be one of its most frequent uses for many casual (i.e., non-business) users.
 
Segnosaur said:
Taking the diplomatic path, Trump cabinet minister attacks Canada.

From: Windsor Star
White House trade adviser Peter Navarro is taking some unprovoked swipes at Canada...He suggests Canada’s decade-long mission, which cost the lives of 158 Canadian soldiers, was motivated more by a desire to curry favour with the U.S. than to support the global fight against terrorism.

The U.S. was the main target on 9/11. Canada joined in the military action, in part due to our membership in NATO.

And we are attacked by a member of the Trump administration.
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I’m ******** losing it.

Imagine if you asked Trump “there was an attack on the US. Another country is prepared To risk the lives of their soldiers to help us. Would you prefer that that county’s motivation be to fight global terrorism or to curry favor with the US?” Can anyone doubt the first thing he would say is “what does curry mean?” and his second response would be “Obviously the latter.”

What is gained by trolling Canada with this offensive stupidity?!
 
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Ladewig said:
I’m ******** losing it.

Imagine if you asked Trump “there was an attack on the US. Another country is prepared To risk the lives of their soldiers to help us. Would you prefer that that county’s motivation be to fight global terrorism or to curry favor with the US?” Can anyone doubt the first thing he would say is “what does curry mean?” and his second response would be “Obviously the latter.”

What is gained by trolling Canada with this offensive stupidity?!
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All counties must be offended equally by the great USA. Leaving anyone out implies favouritism and is frowned upon diplomatically. Trump’s administration strives to be seen at all times as being fair.



Nah. Just another idiot running his mouth off sans thought.
 
Trevor Noah has apparently bought a print ad:

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