What Really Happened on 9/11?

CFLarsen said:
Did you ever visit the WTC before 9-11?

I did, several times. I lived in NYC at the time. You had to go through extensive security (due to the 1993 attack) to even get to the top. Of course, it was impossible to get to the offices without a proper ID.

What you are suggesting is a conspiracy on a scale so vast that it would require hundreds - probably thousands - of people:

  1. Knowing about this, way in advance - working, of course, together with the hijackers.

  2. Working on this, for many months.

  3. Hauling a lot of explosives into the towers.

  4. Placing the explosives at the right spots, with nobody catching on.

  5. Maintaining absolute silence, then and now.

Do you acknowledge this? Yes or no, please.
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Claus, you don't see the obvious. THe explosives were BUILT into the towers at the time of their construction for future use, if needed, to create a global crisis. These were some clever bast#rds, waiting years for the opportunity to spring their trap.
 
Please watch this video:
http://www.dfw.com/multimedia/dfw/news/archive/0318implosion1/index.html

It shows a real implosion of a highrise building. You will notice a whole lot of visible, obvious explosions before the tower goes down, not just one little flicker in the camera that could be from glare. So why do we not see explosions running up and down the length of the WTC as we see in this? Consider that the location of the explosives can't just be anywhere, so you can't put them all on the interior of the building where no flashes will be visible. The explosives need to be on the frame of the structure, which is on the outside of the building.

Walls are broken on the interior to expose key beams that hold the structure in place. Why did noone notice the interior destruction before the WTC was struck by the planes? If you think that people were crawling around on the inside of the walls, consider that they would have had to compete with wires, pipes, and whatever else is in the way. There are not easy crawl ways on the insides of these towers. If mainanence is needed, they remove a section of the wall, and patch it back up later. Why did noone notice the construction work? Also consider that there were people (and security guards with security cameras) at the WTC 24/7.

I honestly don't think anyone anywhere has the technology to pull off such a conspiracy. It simply isn't possible for someone to plant demolition charges on a building of that size without anyone noticing. It's absurd.
 
kookbreaker said:
No. He didn't. And he's sick of you cranks .
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You are wrong...

Explosives Planted In Towers, N.M. Tech Expert Says
By Olivier Uyttebrouck
Journal Staff Writer

Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology.


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Edited by Darat: 
Edited for breach of Rule 4.


(C) 2001, Albuquerque Journal
Reprinted for Fair Use Only
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:)
 
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conspiracybeliever said:
Until you can actually address their research YOU are the hack. And if you are working to "get their licenses pulled" then you are a hack AND a narc piece of trash.
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Well, he can't get their liscences pulled because they aren't engineers at ALL. Jones is a physics professor, and heaven only knows what King is.

As for your 6th grade 'narcing' comment. Grow up. You better hope that someone has been 'narcing' the incompetant engineers next time you have to drive through a tunnel or take an elevator up a tall building. If engineers were allowed to make the same mistakes you allow Cold Fusion Professors to make, you wouldn't last long.
 
conspiracybeliever said:
Until you can actually address their research YOU are the hack. And if you are working to "get their licenses pulled" then you are a hack AND a narc piece of trash.
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Nice...the writer offers something he/she labels "opinion" and you call him a piece of trash. That is certainly the most constructive way to undercut any opposing assertion and to win the argument.

You win.
 
headscratcher4 said:
Your claim of credentials and expertise, obviously, negates anything that you might have to add to this topic, because you clearly are a fellow-traveller with those trying to hide the truth.

To paraphrase Shakespear (well, change it dramatically, really) first, let's kill the engineers!
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Yeah: I forgot the "Bill Rule"--Credentials are meaningless. I will claim some knowlege, however, as the last vehicle I analyzed and straightened the designers out on runs well over 10^6 miles at max GVW before having any structural problems.
The phrase you are seeking is "There comes a time, during the development of a product, when it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production"
This is because engineers do not want to let go till everything is perfect. 99% of the money and effort go into the last 1% of perfection
 
conspiracybeliever said:
You are wrong...
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No, you are:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=4&c=y

Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like."

Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."
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Why don't you cranks stop trying to milk the guy?
 
kookbreaker said:
As for your 6th grade 'narcing' comment. Grow up. You better hope that someone has been 'narcing' the incompetant engineers next time you have to drive through a tunnel or take an elevator up a tall building. If engineers were allowed to make the same mistakes you allow Cold Fusion Professors to make, you wouldn't last long.
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Whatever man....Now I see why none of you will go on Roxdog's show.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1547574&postcount=24

:D
 
conspiracybeliever said:
It is much more than their opinion, they seek to mess with someone's livelyhood purely out of spite.
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When lives are on the line because someone is painfully and obviously incompetant, it is well within rights to 'mess' with their livelihood. Or would you complain that someone 'narced' out a drunken surgeon? After all, it is his livelihood your talking about.
 
Someone accuses an incompetent someone of incompetence, solely out of spite. Right. Appeal to motive, anyone?
 
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