Verifiable, OBJECTIVE evidence of explosives

Re: Dylan and crew profiteering

jessicarabbit said:
Back that up with some figures or withdraw it. I want to see balance sheet and P+L
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I'd very much like to see the balance sheet and profit and loss account too. Do you think Dylan would release this information to you in order to bolster your defence of him? Send him an email, Jessica. If nothing else, maybe he could tell you the gross revenue figure for DVD sales, distribution rights and merchandise sales.
 
Gravy said:
Here's what you said.



Then you said you had a work right in front of you that refutes the official version.

You are a liar.
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Gravy keep wasting your time. You don't bother me. Russell and I see the disinfo rulebook being used in every post.

I just view you with a curious disinterest.
 
sleahead said:
Re: Dylan and crew profiteering



I'd very much like to see the balance sheet and profit and loss account too. Do you think Dylan would release this information to you in order to bolster your defence of him? Send him an email, Jessica. If nothing else, maybe he could tell you the gross revenue figure for DVD sales, distribution rights and merchandise sales.
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You email him you lazy git. I already emailed Fox, 911 mysteries and Craig Bartmer. I am not your secretary.
 
jessica rabbit said:
You email him you lazy git. I already emailed Fox, 911 mysteries and Craig Bartmer. I am not your secretary.
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I'm a JREFer, Jessica, you know he's going to tell me nothing. Also, I am not defending him, you are. If you are correct, the best evidence for your defence is his P+L account. One more email won't hurt, wlll it?
 
sleahead said:
I'm a JREFer, Jessica, you know he's going to tell me nothing. Also, I am not defending him, you are. If you are correct, the best evidence for your defence is his P+L account. One more email won't hurt, wlll it?
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Exactly! I'm defending him against an assertion here that he profits when the person making the assertion hasn't bothered to check if its true.

Email him yourself. Pretend to be the IRS or something.
 
jessicarabbit said:
I just view you with a curious disinterest.
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Is English your second or third language?

Seriously, jessicarabbit, you said you have factual information that, if it were real, would have utterly changed what we think.

Why did you lie about that? Please have the courtesy to explain that to all the people here who were interested in seeing that information.
 
Gravy said:
Is English your second or third language?

Seriously, jessicarabbit, you said you have factual information that, if it were real, would have utterly changed what we think.

Why did you lie about that? Please have the courtesy to explain that to all the people here who were interested in seeing that information.
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It isn't new information. It's on the web.

English is my first language, the oxymoron was deliberate but true nonetheless.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Exactly! I'm defending him against an assertion here that he profits when the person making the assertion hasn't bothered to check if its true.
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Based on statements Dylan has made, I think his revenue is not insubstantial. I expect his cost base to be low and therefore plenty of room for profit. The assertion is well made, in my opinion.

Email him yourself. Pretend to be the IRS or something.
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In suggesting that I think you must regard him as an even bigger idiot than most people here do!

I can see this is one particular truth you do not wish to chase down and so I will leave it at that.
 
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jessicarabbit said:
Russell I just read the disinfo tactics. Every single one is practised here.
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Pot, met kettle.

Rabid:
1: What are your academic credentials?
2: Where are the forensics lab affidavits regarding that video?
3: What makes you sure that the explosion is a demolitions charge?
4: Where are the unedited version of the video, preferably with in picture source TC?
5: Why are you lowing the bar when it comes to demands of quality when it comes to yourself?
6: What evidence do you have of steel being stolen?
7: Did you report it to the proper places?
 
jessicarabbit said:
It isn't new information. It's on the web.
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And we all know the web is soooo reliable.....NOT.

1: What are your academic credentials?
2: Where are the forensics lab affidavits regarding that video?
3: What makes you sure that the explosion is a demolitions charge?
4: Where are the unedited version of the video, preferably with in picture source TC?
5: Why are you lowing the bar when it comes to demands of quality when it comes to yourself?
6: What evidence do you have of steel being stolen?
7: Did you report it to the proper places?
 
jessicarabbit said:
Heres some more evidence. A professoe examines steel from ground zero and points to an area of steel dented by "explosive material"

http://www.911podcasts.com/view.php?cat=9999&med=0&ord=Name&strt=110&vid=69&epi=227&typ=0&form=1
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What you see here is actually very critical. Very, very important. Perhaps this is the most important piece I have found so far. This piece comes from, most likely, Tower 2, where the plane went in and exploded. This is the side face of back columns. So, plane went in, exploded, right here, and explosion hit this surface. What you see, first of all, it bent (unintelligible) was near the explosion, but more importantly, this has the signiature of explosion. This has happened due to explosive material hitting this column and making it bulge. So, this is the floor where explosion happened. And the windows are blown away, and everything is burned; even the fireproofing on this floor is burned and glazed to the steel.
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He is quite clearly talking about the explosion of the plane, when it struck the tower. It is from the Discovery Channel special World Trade Center: Anatomy of the Collapse
 
Arkan: Rabid seems to think that only things like C4 can cause explosions.......I wonder how she/he/it would explain what happens inside a normal non-electrical carengine.......

ETA: And Arkan, you really expected Rabid to keep to her/his/its demands of us and stay on topic?
 
Russell Pickering said:
"That's what you get for trying to analyze a dynamic event by using a single still photo. Bad idea, Russell."

Good point!

Here are two videos of the Southwark Towers too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8315231887206033924&q=southwark+towers&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4707898082309624249&q=southwark+towers&hl=en

Did you notice the flashes too in those?
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What am I not making clear about not using subjective interpretation as evidence in this thread?
 
jessicarabbit said:
Now why is proof against someone else neede d to question the official line?

If a man is falsely imprisoned, he can be released due to new evidence. That evidence does not have to involve a new suspect.
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Because it's the damned purpose of this particular thread.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Well if steel high rises haven't collapsed before and these all look like controlled demolition then I think I know what the conclusion is.
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Okay Jessica, what is supposed to happen when a 767 going 550 mph crashes into a high rise? Answer that before you say anything else, and maybe we can all talk some more. Assuming that you know what happened based on past events is not a proper way to explain an unprecedented event. That's just plain, simple, common sense. And Russell, show me a picture of squibs coming from the windows BEFORE the building starts to fall, the way the picture from the controlled demo looked like.
 
jessicarabbit said:
When will you show us a video of a skyscraper falling due to fire before 911? Ooops I forgot there were none.
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Who says it was just due to fire? Another lie jessica, or just deliberate misleading?

You're a funny girl. I hope you stick around here, your posts are comedy gold! :D
 
jessicarabbit said:
When will you show us a video of a skyscraper falling due to fire before 911? Ooops I forgot there were none.
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Yes it was unique event, it was unprecedented, it had never happened before.

It's not every day planes are flown into tall buildings. The same buildings suffer massive fires,collapse and damage the surrounding buildings.

Now Jessica you have but one video of a real controlled demolition. I could produce more if you wish.

In your expert opinion does it sound or even look like the collapse of the Towers?

Does it sound like the collapse of WTC7?

Simple yes or no's will do for now.
 
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stateofgrace said:
Yes it was unique event, it was unprecedented, it had never happened before.

It's not every day planes are flown into tall buildings. The same buildings suffer massive fires,collapse and damage the surrounding buildings.

Now Jessica you have but one video of a real controlled demolition. I could produce more if you wish.

In your expert opinion does it sound or even look like the collapse of the Towers?

Does it sound like the collapse of WTC7?

Simple yes or no's will do for now.
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I was not in new york on 9/11 so I cannot possibly comment.
 
jessicarabbit said:
If Bazant is a structural engineer he is a poor one. But I will not discuss this with people who dont understand the papers

P.S. I have reported the new thread to the admin as I specifically requested it not be started.
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OK-
I analyze structures for a living.
I can tell you where they will most likely fail.and why
I can tell you what to do to avoid failure at that location.
I can tell you what the load paths look like, and how they should look
I can tell you what loads can be expected, and the response of the structure to those loads, both static and dynamic.
I know and understand the physics behind the reality and the mathematical model.
These facts of expertise are recognized by the NSPE and the State of Colorado.
So, give it your best shot. Let's hear it.
 
jessicarabbit said:
I was not in new york on 9/11 so I cannot possibly comment.
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WHAT?

Jessica you have been offering up video evidence claiming it shows bombs, explosions and flashes and goodness knows what else and now you cannot comment because you were not in New York on 911.

All these comments you have based on videos and are now moot.
I think it was plain old bombs
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Similar explosions are seen in similar positions in the north tower when the south tower is hit.
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No theses are explosions
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Heres some more evidence. A professoe examines steel from ground zero and points to an area of steel dented by "explosive material"
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watch the video it is about It shows the explosion occurring
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So why did the guy in my video express concern at the wtc7
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These are indeed systematic explosions.
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Those squibs are systematic
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In future remember you were not in New York and you are not in a position to comment.

You are comedy gold Jessica, absolute gold.

Now I will leave you with rwguinn as he seems to want to discuss your maths.

As requested give it your best shot.
 
stateofgrace said:
WHAT?

Jessica you have been offering up video evidence claiming it shows bombs, explosions and flashes and goodness knows what else and now you cannot comment because you were not in New York on 911.

All these comments you have based on videos and are now moot.






In future remember you were not in New York and you are not in a position to comment.

You are comedy gold Jessica, absolute gold.

Now I will leave you with rwguinn as he seems to want to discuss your maths.

As requested give it your best shot.
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You asked me a question about noise straw man. I cannot comment on noise since I was not in new york.

Why do you use these strawman tactics? We know all 25 rules from the book of disinfo.
 
jessicarabbit said:
You asked me a question about noise straw man. I cannot comment on noise since I was not in new york.

Why do you use these strawman tactics? We know all 25 rules from the book of disinfo.
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Ok this is far too complex for you isn't it? So I will simplify it for you.

Can you produce a video that has the same loud explosive noises recorded along with the same visual flashes as per the controlled demolition video that as been produced?
 
stateofgrace said:
Ok this is far too complex for you isn't it? So I will simplify it for you.

Can you produce a video that has the same loud explosive noises recorded along with the same visual flashes as per the controlled demolition video that as been produced?
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If I did you would claim it was fake.

Why do we bother? This will never end. In ten years time we will still be having the same circular arguments.
 
jessicarabbit said:
If I did you would claim it was fake.

Why do we bother? This will never end. In ten years time we will still be having the same circular arguments.
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If it were to not be fake, then the criticisms that it was fake should be easily disprovable. You are making a false claim to have an excuse to not provide evidence.
 
So...

Silly wabbit was posting all night, and still hasn't given us (a) her credentials, since she "will not discuss science with amateurs," or (b) her promised, mathematical refutation of Greening's paper?

When do we declare a TKO?
 
jessicarabbit said:
When will you show us a video of a skyscraper falling due to fire before 911? Ooops I forgot there were none.
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when will you show us a video of a 110 or 47 story skyscraper being demolished before 9/11? ooops i forgot there were none, guess it cant be CD either then, right?
 
jessicarabbit said:
If I did you would claim it was fake.

Why do we bother? This will never end. In ten years time we will still be having the same circular arguments.
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still waiting, sweetie.

I analyze structures for a living.
I can tell you where they will most likely fail.and why
I can tell you what to do to avoid failure at that location.
I can tell you what the load paths look like, and how they should look
I can tell you what loads can be expected, and the response of the structure to those loads, both static and dynamic.
I know and understand the physics behind the reality and the mathematical model.
These facts of expertise are recognized by the NSPE and the State of Colorado.
So, give it your best shot. Let's hear it.
 
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