no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

beachnut said:
No serial numbers are needed to identify Flight 77; we all knew on 911 which plane it was and the DNA made it legal for identifying the passenger's deaths.

... dumbest idea from the cult of 911 delusions.

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It takes some knowledge to know 77 was identified by RADAR and the DNA. It takes great ignorance to deny this. Great!
 
beachnut said:
It takes some knowledge to know 77 was identified by RADAR and the DNA. It takes great ignorance to deny this. Great!
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For the record Beachnut has conceded he cannot show evidence that the wheel at the Pentagon is from AA77.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
NO surce for the photos is really bad evidence. PLease try again.
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:dl:

Wow.

And I was having a bad afternoon, that cheered me right up.

You're not getting it, are you?

Those were serial numbers.

You demand serial numbers.

There they are.

If you won't accept those, you won't accept ANY proof of serial numbers. and you have capitulated your argument.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
For the record Beachnut has conceded he cannot show evidence that the wheel at the Pentagon is from AA77.
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Which says nothing about all the evidence, eyewitnesses, and forensics and data we DO have that proves that AA77 hit the Pentagon.
 
BigAl said:
Which says nothing about all the evidence, eyewitnesses, and forensics and data we DO have that proves that AA77 hit the Pentagon.
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Eyewitnnes that statments can be torn apart.

You have failed to show any real forensics or data that cannot be dubunked as not enough to proof a criminal investiagtion.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
For the record Beachnut has conceded he cannot show evidence that the wheel at the Pentagon is from AA77.
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What difference does Beachnut make? Why haven't you gone to American Airlines or major media outlets with this information? Why waste your time here?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
For the record Beachnut has conceded he cannot show evidence that the wheel at the Pentagon is from AA77.
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For the record, you have acknowledged that you are incapable of the elementary logical reasoning that proves that the wheel could only have come from AA77.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Eyewitnnes that statments can be torn apart.

You have failed to show any real forensics or data that cannot be dubunked as not enough to proof a criminal investiagtion.
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You are a fake who wastes time on tiny internet forums. To REAL criminal investigators, there is no mystery.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Eyewitnnes that statments can be torn apart.

You have failed to show any real forensics or data that cannot be dubunked as not enough to proof a criminal investiagtion.
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Three words for you: "Preponderance of evidence"
 
The question is what regulation requires serial numbers be used to identify an aircraft? Prove the need to indentify with serial numbers. This is the answer.

Eyewitnnes that statments can be torn apart.

You have failed to show any real forensics or data that cannot be dubunked as not enough to proof a criminal investiagtion.
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Can u dubunk too? A criminal investiagtion was never done. What is an investiagtion?

Oops; not the correct answer.

The answer is no regulation requires an aircraft to be identified by serial number; 4 planes were missing on 911 and all were witnessed to impact the WTC towers, the Pentagon and a filed in PA. These witnesses are backed with RADAR which is irrefutable by the anti-intellectual 911 delusion masters.

Why do the people who make up false ideas like Ultima1 not understand RADAR? Why can't they explain why it is not proof 77 impacted the Pentagon on 911? Why do they lack logic to tie evidence and facts together to form a rational conclusion?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Why do people try to avoid facts and evidence shown?


http://www.ntsb.gov/speeches/carmody/cc020227.htm
"Could you send us some people to help find the black boxes and help identify aircraft parts."
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When a "truther" demands that we look at evidence that completely destroys his mad position, it would be a cause for laughter and ridicule if it didn't confirm the suspicion that a powerful, intractable pathology underlies his behavior. Imagine, this guy WANTS us to notice the bolded parts!


"The NTSB was created by the Congress to investigate accidents, determine the probable cause and make recommendations to prevent recurrence. We have this authority across all modes of transportation, although aviation gets the most attention. We are the lead agency in aviation accidents unless there is credible evidence of criminal activity. In that case, the Attorney General and the Chairman must confer and the FBI would take the lead. This provision is contained in a statute because of the difficulties that arose between the NTSB and the FBI following the TWA 800 crash.
So on the morning of September 11, when I got the first call about a jet hitting a building in New York, I assumed I would be heading up there with a GO Team. Within minutes, the second plane hit and I realized this was not likely to be an NTSB investigation. The FBI Director called and I went immediately to their headquarters, arriving just as the building was being evacuated and the Pentagon was reported hit. We received minute-by-minute bulletins of the plane in Pennsylvania. Then we heard it was down and the rumor was that it had been shot down.

I left to return to headquarters and assured FBI Director Mueller that we would assist in any way we could, but that it was obvious the disasters were not accidents. No sooner had I reached my office than he called and said, "Could you send us some people to help find the black boxes and help identify aircraft parts." We dispatched teams immediately to Pennsylvania, New York and across the river to the Pentagon. We were able to recover cockpit voice recorders and flight data recorders from the Pentagon and Pennsylvania; not yet and maybe never from the Trade Center. Our experts read out the recorders and provided the information to the FBI for their use in the investigation. Our investigators stayed in New York for several months working both at Ground Zero as well as at the Freshkill site where large amounts of debris were taken to be sorted. "
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Why do people try to avoid facts and evidence shown?


http://www.ntsb.gov/speeches/carmody/cc020227.htm
"Could you send us some people to help find the black boxes and help identify aircraft parts."
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Cherry pick much? Yes.

Read much? Apparently not.

Those words were spoken on the morning of 9/11 and the request for more people was completely reasonable given that they had 4 crash sites to deal with. It also establishes when the FBI investigation started.

So on the morning of September 11, when I got the first call about a jet hitting a building in New York, I assumed I would be heading up there with a GO Team. Within minutes, the second plane hit and I realized this was not likely to be an NTSB investigation. The FBI Director called and I went immediately to their headquarters, arriving just as the building was being evacuated and the Pentagon was reported hit. We received minute-by-minute bulletins of the plane in Pennsylvania. Then we heard it was down and the rumor was that it had been shot down.

I left to return to headquarters and assured FBI Director Mueller that we would assist in any way we could, but that it was obvious the disasters were not accidents. No sooner had I reached my office than he called and said, "Could you send us some people to help find the black boxes and help identify aircraft parts."
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ULTIMA1 said:
Show me the source of the photos and evidence that the boxes shown belong to 93 and 77 or concede you are wrong
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As both images have been accepted into evidence in a criminal trial, you lose.

Stop lying to us about who you are, please?

Stop acting like a troll here, please?

This topic is "asked and answered" and you lost. Its that simple.

If you have any other theories, I suggest you move on to those, as to keep harping on a disproved theory is the hallmark of a crank, and you don't want to be one of those, do you?

:D

And oh yes.

I win.

:D
 
beachnut said:
It takes some knowledge to know 77 was identified by RADAR and the DNA. It takes great ignorance to deny this. Great!
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Facts show that the FBI called in the NTSB to ID the planes.

So the fantasy that DNA, FDR , and RADAR was used to ID the planes is DEBUNKED.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Facts show that the FBI called in the NTSB to ID the planes.

So the fantasy that DNA was used to ID the planes is DEBUNKJED.
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Who is crazy enough to think that there was a mystery about the identity of the plane that hit the Pentagon? Nobody is saying that the DNA of the passengers and crew was used to identify the plane. The identity of the plane was known right away. DNA identifications take time. Your desperation is driving you to bounce all over the lot. You can't make a lick of sense and you don't know when to quit making a fool of yourself.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Facts show that the FBI called in the NTSB to ID the planes.

So the fantasy that DNA, FDR , and RADAR was used to ID the planes is DEBUNKED.
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Radar tracked Flight 77 to the Pentagon. A plane crashed at the Pentagon. It takes a special type of idiot to miss the connection.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Facts show that the FBI called in the NTSB to ID the planes.

So the fantasy that DNA, FDR , and RADAR was used to ID the planes is DEBUNKED.
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FineWine said:
Radar tracked Flight 77 to the Pentagon. A plane crashed at the Pentagon. It takes a special type of idiot to miss the connection.
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we've known for a long time he's special.

because he's ill.
do not supply the afflicted with nourishment.
 
Well, I have to say this is one of the stupidiest threads I've seen on this board

Its 7 year olds with "yes it is", "no it isn't"

LOL oh and Ultima is so wrong its painfull - why do you deal with this troll anyway?
 
BigAl said:
Which says nothing about all the evidence, eyewitnesses, and forensics and data we DO have that proves that AA77 hit the Pentagon.
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It's all about scoring points on an internet forum.

He's doing it for teh lulz.
 
FineWine said:
I don't consider it anything of the sort. If you are analyzing intelligence, we are all in trouble.
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If this post looks strange, that's because it is strange. I got confused and thought I was responding to Ultima1. My apologies. I would have no problems whatever if Ben Burch were analyzing intelligence.
 
Still waiting from HI to show us those pictures of the serial numbers matching TWA 800 after declaring that is "how terrorist downed planes were investigated in the past". Seems he's disappeared from this thread... I don't blame him, because it will only make him look like a hypocrite if he can't.
 
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