no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

Ooooh, and it's a YouTube video! The unchallenged golden standard of evidentiary proof to the truther - and the cognitively challenged.

This'll be good.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
Ooooh, and it's a YouTube video! The unchallenged golden standard of evidentiary proof to the truther - and the cognitively challenged.

This'll be good.
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So that's why they have trouble reading. They are used to being shown actions and then having those actions explained for them.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Show me the documents from the FBI or NTSB about identifying planes with RADAR for a criminal investigation.
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It's interesting how you require specific documents, yet brush off any request for you to provide the same. :rolleyes:
 
lapman said:
It's interesting how you require specific documents, yet brush off any request for you to provide the same. :rolleyes:
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The poor comprehension free NSA agent.

The FBI used the following reports to identify the planes on 911 along with other evidence.

These are the documents used by the FBI from the NTSB.

http://www.ntsb.gov/info/foia_fri.htm Reports here include the RADAR used by the FBI from the NTSB to show 77 was really the correct choice they already knew on 911! These reports made it clear they were correct.
77RadarTrack.jpg

77 impacted the Pentagon and it was known on 911! These are the documents which confirm the other evidence. It there a term for a lack of comprehension skill? Some learning disability?
 
Using ULTIMA1's standards of evidence it is impossible to know:

1. What country's naval forces attacked Pearl Harbor;
2. What caused the explosions in Hiroshima & Nagasaki in August 1945;
3. Who was Chancellor of Germany in 1941;
4. Who signed the Declaration of Independence;
5. Who won the 1919 World Series;
or,
6. Whether Julius Caesar was assassinated on the ides of March 44 BC.

ULTIMA1, do you have the same doubts about these events as you do about AA77?


** Lest anyone consider this post to be off topic - please reconsider: I am trying to figure out what ULTIMA1 considers to be enough evidence to support the fact of any historical event.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Show me the documents from the FBI or NTSB about identifying planes with RADAR for a criminal investigation.
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Beachnut has shown the radar track a dozen times. Your pathology prevents you from comprehending what you are seeing.
 
Hi guys,

Here's a relevant page from the FDR, extracted from the NTSB document. I'll also include the pics of the actual unit being removed for data extraction.

cheers

 
ULTIMA1 said:
But the FBI must verify the identity of the plane for a criminal investigation, thats why the NTSB was called in to identify parts.
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Please show the federal rules of evidence that requires the identificaion of the individual parts, as oppossed to identification of the aircraft.
 
Trojan said:
Please show the federal rules of evidence that requires the identificaion of the individual parts, as oppossed to identification of the aircraft.
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I would like Ultima1 to to tell us which aircraft parts would actually confirm it to be AA77 and which aircraft parts would simply confirm it as being a 757?
 
Has it occurred to U1, do you suppose, that one might want to ID parts because one might want to know WHICH parts one was looking at in a mangled mass? You might need an expert for that. And you ID the pilot's yoke and control column, lets say, but since it CAN only be from one plane, nobody would ever check to see its serial numbers, IF ANY, as it was never material to the case.
 
HI, got those pics of serial numbers matching TWA 800 yet? You have had ample time.
 
Jackanory said:
I would like Ultima1 to to tell us which aircraft parts would actually confirm it to be AA77 and which aircraft parts would simply confirm it as being a 757?
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I have U1 on ignore, but did he miss the part of the video I posted where the NTSB was going through the aircraft debris and parts with the FBI on the evening of 9/11? So the NTSB DID check the parts and identified them in the presence of the FBI. I don't understand the issue here.
 
911files said:
I have U1 on ignore, but did he miss the part of the video I posted where the NTSB was going through the aircraft debris and parts with the FBI on the evening of 9/11? So the NTSB DID check the parts and identified them in the presence of the FBI. I don't understand the issue here.
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Neither does he, apparently.

btw, you look good with glasses.
 
beachnut said:
The poor comprehension free NSA agent.

The FBI used the following reports to identify the planes on 911 along with other evidence.
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Poor little investigator wannabe. You can only keep repeating about FDR and RADAR but have ZERO physcial evidence to back it up.
 
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FineWine said:
Beachnut has shown the radar track a dozen times. .
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Yes he has shown it a lot, Just too bad he cannot back it up with real evidence, or show physcial evidence.

You do know that AA77 was off screeen for seerveral minutes?
 
BenBurch said:
Has it occurred to U1, do you suppose, that one might want to ID parts because one might want to know WHICH parts one was looking at in a mangled mass? .
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But according to you and others they would not need to if they already knew it was a 757.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
But according to you and others they would not need to if they already knew it was a 757.
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Not just a 757. They knew it was Flight 93 based on radar track, ACARS, and the fact that it never reached its destination.

Why don't you?
 
JoeyDonuts said:
Not just a 757. They knew it was Flight 93 based on radar track, ACARS, and the fact that it never reached its destination.
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Well for 1 we are talking about AA77.

Second as stated 100 times and accepted by sane, intelligent people. AA77 was off screen for several minutes.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Well for 1 we are talking about AA77.

Second as stated 100 times and accepted by sane, intelligent people. AA77 was off screen for several minutes.
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Thanks for proving you know nothing about ATC procedures.
 
Why aren't the mods stepping in here? The question(well it wasn't really a question, per se) in the OP has been answered hundreds of times over. The threads antagonist has even himself admitted that there are still ongoing criminal trials which would prevent the information requested from being provided. He also hasn't produced:

- the regulation that requires serial numbers be used to identify a crashed airplane.
- an example crash with reports of serial number matching.
- photos of serial numbered parts from such a crash.
- evidence that no such serial number matching was done by the FBI/NTSB


Now the OP is resorting to repeating himself over and over and over. This is why Christopera's "Anyone seen a realistice explanation..." thread got canned as well as C7s "Ten story hole in WTC7" thread. Same exact pattern, baiting and trolling here. Stop the insanity!

I'm done with this thread and I encourage others to let this one slide on down..
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Thnks for proving you do not accept or admit to facts and evidence that show AA77 was off screen for several minutes.
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Thanks for proving you view vowels as a disposable component of the English language.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I have to keep repeating so the closed minded among you can see and maybe finally accept facts and evidence shown.
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You know what else that's called?

Flooding the forum. Which was against the MA last time I checked.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Thanks for proving my point that people like you have to go after spelling becasue you cannot debate with facts and evidence.
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With you, there's no point.

The facts and evidence are out there and have been presented to you on multiple times, and I'm not about to wave them under your nose again.

You know damn well there is a mountain of physical, circumstantial, and anecdotal evidence that supports the conclusion of the 9/11 commission's sequence of events.

But you seem to be content to stand at the base of this mountain and deny its existence because you haven't seen anybody playing an alphorn.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
The facts and evidence are out there and have been presented to you on multiple times, and I'm not about to wave them under your nose again.
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You mean the facts you have been told to believe, not ones you can prove?

You know damn well there is a mountain of physical, circumstantial, and anecdotal evidence that supports the conclusion of the 9/11 commission's sequence of events.
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Funny there cannot be a mountain of evidence since as you should know most of the evidence has not evne been released yet.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
You mean the facts you have been told to believe, not ones you can prove?
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And who told me to believe them? Go ahead and say the media. You're itching to, I can feel it. Don't presume for a second to know the depths of my knowledge or the manner in which it was obtained.

Funny there cannot be a mountain of evidence since as you should know most of the evidence has not evne been released yet.
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Yeah, I don't see any alphorn players either. That must not be a mountain, we don't have enough evidence to confirm it.
 
JoeyDonuts said:
And who told me to believe them? Go ahead and say the media. You're itching to, I can feel it. Don't presume for a second to know the depths of my knowledge or the manner in which it was obtained.
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Then why do you still believe what you have been told instead of looking for the truth?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Then why do you still believe what you have been told instead of looking for the truth?
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Once again, you're presuming to know what I believe and what I don't.

But I'll throw you a bone, even though you don't deserve it after everything you've pulled.

I believe Flight 77 was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon. This fact was established by the tireless work of the various investigative agencies whose task it was to collect evidence to discover the truth. I have no reason to believe that they are corrupt or suspect or remiss in their duty, so I don't have any reason to openly disrespect them by questioning their version of events. To do that is to accuse them of incompetence or corruption. I don't need to see an itemized list of serial numbers or physically witness the wreckage of Flight 77 to know that the FBI, NTSB, AFIP, and others did their jobs to the best of their ability. You seem to be saying otherwise.

Another reason I believe it? My old Chief was nearly killed in that attack. I'd love to see you push your hogwash on him. You might find your jawbone fitting a little bit looser.
 
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But you have no real, physical evidence or official reports to suport this. Only what you have been told.
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I don't work for the FBI, NTSB, AFIP, or any other such organization. I am not in physical possession of serial numbers or any 9/11-related evidence. Nor do I need to be to support their conclusion.

Are you accusing those agencies of wrongdoing or improper procedure? What qualifies you to make a statement like that?
 
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