Question for those demanding serial numbers...

Homeland Insurgency said:
You know what it means. That's why you are attacking me instead of addressing facts.

Don't get yourself reported. If you have nothing then walk away.
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No, I really have no idea what you were talking about. It is not my fault you are unable to express yourself in a coherent manner. Please try to do something about that in the future.

And report away if you want.
 
TexasJack said:
Are you ever going to come up with those serial numbers from TWA 800? I hope my post didn't upset you.
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There is controversy over 800 as well.

But for some reason we have so much more on 800 then all of the 9/11 planes combined.

http://www.ntsb.gov/Events/twa800/

TWA FLIGHT 800
Atlantic Ocean
Near East Moriches,
New York
July 17, 1996
DCA96MA070

Can we stay on topic now?

Or don't you have anything on 77?
 
AJM8125 said:
I don't have to come with anything. I just proved that you'd rather piss and moan rather than make an effort to find the truth. And the beauty of it is all I had to do was ask "why".
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Again you come with the transference.

Why are you so angry?

Remember 77?

Got anything yet?
 
dtugg said:
I know. Unfortunately for him he can't piss me off. All he can do is make me laugh.
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Actually I'm the one who would love to stay on topic but for some reason no debunker here wants to.

I guess I'm bickering now just talking to you huh?

Maybe all my posts should be moved to AAH.

That's some debunking.

Proud?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
There is controversy over 800 as well.

But for some reason we have so much more on 800 then all of the 9/11 planes combined.

http://www.ntsb.gov/Events/twa800/

TWA FLIGHT 800
Atlantic Ocean
Near East Moriches,
New York
July 17, 1996
DCA96MA070

Can we stay on topic now?

Or don't you have anything on 77?
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You're the one who brought up TWA 800, not me, then you ran away. Just simply state that you don't have serial numbers, and the evidence you demand for 911 isn't going to be the same in other investigations, but I guess you're taking your own advice:
If you have nothing then walk away.
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How's that FOIA request for those serial numbers coming HI? You are actually interested in whether or not serial numbers were used in the investigation, right? Since the internet isn't turning anything up on AA77's serial number matching reports(or SR 111's, TWA 800's, VJ 592's, AL 261's, AA 587's, etc, etc,...), the next logical step is to file an FOIA request for the info. Let us know what you find out, ok?
 
TexasJack said:
You're the one who brought up TWA 800, not me, then you ran away. Just simply state that you don't have serial numbers, and the evidence you demand for 911 isn't going to be the same in other investigations, but I guess you're taking your own advice:
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I brought up the TWA 800 controversial by posting a picture of a reconstruction of the plane.

Got anything like this on 77?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/NTSB.html

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/exhibits/Ex_7A.pdf

Here is another...

http://images.google.comhttp://www..../dec/21/lockerbie-terrorism?picture=340974914

That one was an official terrorist attack BTW. Controversial also.

But still so much more information.
 
apathoid said:
How's that FOIA request for those serial numbers coming HI? You are actually interested in whether or not serial numbers were used in the investigation, right? Since the internet isn't turning anything up on AA77's serial number matching reports(or SR 111's, TWA 800's, VJ 592's, AL 261's, AA 587's, etc, etc,...), the next logical step is to file an FOIA request for the info. Let us know what you find out, ok?
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No.

The next step as a debunker for you to support what you claim to be the factual truth is to come up with anything that remotely resembles all of the information on all of those other (sometime controversial) crashes you list.

Or just explain how flight 77 was identified which you seem to be trying to get away from.

If you can't identify it then fine.

It doesn't mean your story is not true.

It just means you can't back it up. With anything at all.

So keep attacking me. Maybe your story will get more factual by doing that but I doubt it.
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
I brought up the TWA 800 controversial by posting a picture of a reconstruction of the plane.

Got anything like this on 77?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/NTSB.html

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/exhibits/Ex_7A.pdf

Here is another...

http://images.google.comhttp://www..../dec/21/lockerbie-terrorism?picture=340974914

That one was an official terrorist attack BTW. Controversial also.

But still so much more information.
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How do you know that's TWA 800, got any serial numbers to match it? How do you know the janitor didn't plant the parts they found? And why is there Forensic Pathology in that link? I thought you can't identify planes by DNA?
 
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Homeland Insurgency said:
I brought up the TWA 800 controversial by posting a picture of a reconstruction of the plane.

Got anything like this on 77?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/NTSB.html

http://www.ntsb.gov/events/TWA800/exhibits/Ex_7A.pdf

Here is another...

http://images.google.comhttp://www..../dec/21/lockerbie-terrorism?picture=340974914

That one was an official terrorist attack BTW. Controversial also.

But still so much more information.
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that's because they didn't know how TWA 800 was brought down. with flight's 77, 11, and 175, It was pretty obvious
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Show me more than a hundred witnesses that all saw the same exact thing of any event in history.



Is it a hundred, a large number, or just some?

And even if something from the air hit the pentagon it still needs to be identified.

As a debunker would you say that all witness accounts at the towers for example are accurate or even close to the truth?

I mean debunkers do rely on dismissing or asserting what eye witnesses really meant don't they?
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Fatima:
http://www.fatima.org/essentials/facts/miracle.asp
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
No.

The next step as a debunker for you to support what you claim to be the factual truth is to come up with anything that remotely resembles all of the information on all of those other (sometime controversial) crashes you list.

Or just explain how flight 77 was identified which you seem to be trying to get away from.

If you can't identify it then fine.

It doesn't mean your story is not true.

It just means you can't back it up. With anything at all.

So keep attacking me. Maybe your story will get more factual by doing that but I doubt it.
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So you are more interested in being a malcontent than knowing the truth. Interesting, but not surprising. And you've been told a hundred times already how 77 was ID'ed. Radar(primary not secondary - google if you don't know the difference), ACARS, FDR data from at least the previous 25 hours of flights, eyewitnesses who saw an AA plane hit the Pentagon, DNA of passengers who boarded AA77, DNA of AA employees assigned to flight 77 as well a wreckage consistent with a 757 in AA markings. Pretty solid evidence; it was enough to help convict someone in the US Supreme Court.

I've asked the following question of you and and ULTIMA several times now, but for some strange reason, it never seems to get answered: if the only way a plane can be properly identified is by serial numbers, please show us the regulation that states this, a sample "serial number matching report for XXXXXX", and photos of serial numbered parts in the report. Either do it, or admit every other crash in history has also failed to properly ID the accident airplane; which would make this notion of serial numbering matching completely moot.


I brought up the TWA 800 controversial by posting a picture of a reconstruction of the plane.

Got anything like this on 77?
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Stop ignoring these very important questions HI; how do we know thats TWA 800 without a serial number matching record and pictures? Where is the tail? Where are the wings? Where are the wheels? Where are the engines? Come on HI, you brought it up....
 
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Homeland Insurgency said:
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And even if something from the air hit the pentagon it still needs to be identified. ...
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RADAR, DNA, and FDR. Evidence you deny due to your fantasy-world of stupid conspiracy theories you have for 911, Flight 800, and more. You don't have evidence you have talk.

Troll on and spew dirt dumb delusions; what else can you due when you have zero evidence? I recommend you don't talk to strangers in case on lost a loved-one on 911; this is disrespectful to deny evidence and make up lies like you do on 911.

What grade level are you so I can gage the when someone can understand how to gain knowledge and understand DNA, RADAR, and FDRs?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
No. I don't know if anything hit the Pentagon from the air. But if something did it still needs to be identified.

If there were parts then how many are we talking about? Just because some plane parts might have been found doesn't mean it hit the Pentagon.

If a bunch of parts were put in some part of the Pentagon before 9/11 and then on 9/11 that part of the building blew up or was hit by a missile does that mean the parts that were found were flight 77?

How many parts were found at the Pentagon?

How many plane parts were found all together from 9/11?

Lets see them all, count them, and match them all up.
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As I said in an earlier post, you are really, really bad at this. How did the remains of the passengers and crew of AA77 end up in the Pentagon? You will mindlessly reply that they were planted by your imaginary conspiracy. That would be same conspiracy that "forgot" to plant serial-numbered aircraft parts. Right?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
No.

The next step as a debunker for you to support what you claim to be the factual truth is to come up with anything that remotely resembles all of the information on all of those other (sometime controversial) crashes you list.

Or just explain how flight 77 was identified which you seem to be trying to get away from.

If you can't identify it then fine.

It doesn't mean your story is not true.

It just means you can't back it up. With anything at all.

So keep attacking me. Maybe your story will get more factual by doing that but I doubt it.
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You were caught lying when you tried to pretend that air traffic controllers didn't track Flight 175 into the south tower. Air crash investigators are telling how AA77 was identified. You have shown that you know nothing about the subject. Why do you persist in your pointless attempts to argue with them?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
There is controversy over 800 as well.

But for some reason we have so much more on 800 then all of the 9/11 planes combined.
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Nice link to the NTSB report.

When they "release" the ones for the 9/11 events, you will have the same type of information.

You do realize both the FBI and NTSB have yet to release the final reports on the 9/11 attacks, correct?
 
Gavron said:
Nice link to the NTSB report.

When they "release" the ones for the 9/11 events, you will have the same type of information.

You do realize both the FBI and NTSB have yet to release the final reports on the 9/11 attacks, correct?
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No. He can't seem to get his head around the difference between an accident investigation and a criminal investigation, though I believe it's willful on his part.
 
Gavron said:
You do realize both the FBI and NTSB have yet to release the final reports on the 9/11 attacks, correct?
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Which goes to prove the beleivers do not know what really happened that day even though they keep being dishonest and saying they do.
 
AJM8125 said:
No. He can't seem to get his head around the difference between an accident investigation and a criminal investigation, though I believe it's willful on his part.
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If believers knew the difference then they would know that RADAR, DNA, and FDR is not used to verify the ID of a plane in a criminal investigation.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Sorry but RADAR, DNA, or FDR do not positivily ID a plane for a criminal investigation.

When i recieve the FOIA request from the NTSB i will be glad to show you how wrong you are.
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I see your problem. You are supposed to send FOIA requests to the NTSB not wait to receive one.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Sorry but RADAR, DNA, or FDR do not positivily ID a plane for a criminal investigation.

When i recieve the FOIA request from the NTSB i will be glad to show you how wrong you are.
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For rational humans DNA, RADAR and FDR do positively identify a plane and I have used them in investigations; what is your experience with aircraft crashes? You lost this round because your delusions fail in the real world.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
When i recieve the FOIA request from the NTSB i will be glad to show you how wrong you are.
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Ah, very good, you sent one out.

Be sure to post your results in this thread when it comes in. Or create an entire new thread, if the information is good enough.
 
ULTIMA, Homeland ? These questions aren't going away....

I've asked the following question of you and and ULTIMA several times now, but for some strange reason, it never seems to get answered: if the only way a plane can be properly identified is by serial numbers, please show us the regulation that states this, a sample "serial number matching report for XXXXXX", and photos of serial numbered parts in the report. Either do it, or admit every other crash in history has also failed to properly ID the accident airplane; which would make this notion of serial numbering matching completely moot.
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I hate to to think you are dodging the issue...
 
ULTIMA1 said:
If believers knew the difference then they would know that RADAR, DNA, and FDR is not used to verify the ID of a plane in a criminal investigation.
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im curious about what u think of the ptech software on many computer systems on 911. ive read much about it so i have my doubts about the radar and fdr data that people so adamantly cling too.
 
I've asked the following question of you and and ULTIMA several times now, but for some strange reason, it never seems to get answered: if the only way a plane can be properly identified is by serial numbers, please show us the regulation that states this, a sample "serial number matching report for XXXXXX", and photos of serial numbered parts in the report. Either do it, or admit every other crash in history has also failed to properly ID the accident airplane; which would make this notion of serial numbering matching completely moot.
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Excellent. I will be sure to repost this every time they try to dodge.
 
1337m4n said:
Excellent. I will be sure to repost this every time they try to dodge.
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I am not dodging it. I have sent an FOIA request to the NTSB to get information on serial numbers being used to ID a plane in a criminal investigation.

Why do you keep dodging the fact that you have no physical evidence to show that AA77 hit the Pentagon?

You cannot even show what parts were found and if they match AA77.
 
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