61% Of Democrats Are/Were 9/11 Truthers

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This rather astounding statement was made recently on this thread in the politics forum. (I have italicized the weasel words.)

How about the democrats unload the 61% of thier [sic] members who thought at one time or another that 9/11 was an inside job

When asked to produce a source the poster came up with this Rasmussen Report from 2007.

(Rasmussen Reports is "an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information" and did not commission or conduct the poll. I cannot find any info on the Rasmussen page about where the poll came from.)

The title of the article was 22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks in Advance and the survey was of "likely voters."

The overall results on the 9/11 questions were:

Did the CIA Know About the 9/11 Attacks in Advance?

Yes 29% No 41% Not sure 30%

Did Bush Know About the 9/11 Attacks in Advance?

Yes 22% No 55% Not sure 22%

For likely voters who identified themselves as democrats:

Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.

For republicans:

18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view.

Which would leave 25% of the republicans "not sure" that Bush knew in advance of the 9/11 attacks.

From the data above about likely voters who identify themselves as democrats, our forum member adds 35 (sure Bush knew in advance) + 26 (not sure) = 61 and gets "61% of [democrats] thought at one time or another that 9/11 was an inside job." (Again I have italicised the weasel words.)

Note that "knew in advance" would be LIHOP at best and believing the Bush administration had intelligence about the impending attacks that was ignored is not the same as believing Bush knew about, planned or was responsible for an "inside job" that happened on 9/11. Also, using the same poll results and the same "logic," we could say 44% of all likely voters polled and 43% of republicans polled believed 9/11 was an inside job.

I can play the same get-creative-with-numbers game too.

From a recently commissioned poll of self-identified republicans.

Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not?

Yes 42
No 36
Not Sure 22

36 + 22 = 58

So the majority (58%) of republicans are birthers.

Do you believe ACORN stole the 2008 election?

Yes 21
No 24
Not Sure 55
21 + 55 = 76

So the overwhelming majority (76%) of republicans believe ACORN conspired (with whom?) to steal the election for Obama.
 
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Sword of Truth has redefined "fuzzy math".

35% becomes 61%. Fascinating.
 
Even if this were true, it would tell us far more about an average voter than about anything else.

McHrozni
 
SoT knows better then to post that crap. I think SoT is a great person, and has been a great help over here in 9/11CT, but I think politics sometimes makes us say and do strange things.

TAM:)
 
Even if this were true, it would tell us far more about an average voter than about anything else.

McHrozni

The poll was of "likely voters," not registered voters, and, yes, it does tell us something about the intelligence of the American public, but it does not tell us that 61% of democrats believed 9/11 was an inside job. That was Sword of Truthyness' spin on the poll.
 
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SoT knows better then to post that crap. I think SoT is a great person, and has been a great help over here in 9/11CT, but I think politics sometimes makes us say and do strange things.

TAM:)

Yes, like calling people whose politics you disagree with "truthers" when you know they are not.
 
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This belongs in the politics sub-forum. Or hell, it really doesn't even deserve it's own thread. This should be in response to SoT's claim.
 
Just like I've always said...911 Truth is the most important issue in America. Discussion about it is overwhelming. Everywhere you go, everyone wants to know, what really happened on 911. Bookstores and newspapers are full of speculation. It' s the topic that dominates the construction industry, schools of engineering and toilet manufacturer's conventions. It is simply the most important thing that has happened in your lifetime.

Does that answer your quiry about how many people are really concerned about 911 Truth?
 
This belongs in the politics sub-forum. Or hell, it really doesn't even deserve it's own thread. This should be in response to SoT's claim.

Swordy's claim was off topic in the thread it was posted in and it was about 9/11 truthyness so I posted it here. There have been many discussions here about who believes in "inside job" theories and why they believe in such theories.

The mods, however, can move this thread to politics if they wish.
 
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Just like I've always said...911 Truth is the most important issue in America. Discussion about it is overwhelming. Everywhere you go, everyone wants to know, what really happened on 911. Bookstores and newspapers are full of speculation.

:D:p

you!!!!
 
Just like I've always said...911 Truth is the most important issue in America. Discussion about it is overwhelming. Everywhere you go, everyone wants to know, what really happened on 911. Bookstores and newspapers are full of speculation. It' s the topic that dominates the construction industry, schools of engineering and toilet manufacturer's conventions. It is simply the most important thing that has happened in your lifetime.

Does that answer your quiry about how many people are really concerned about 911 Truth?

Who are you addressing here? Your question begs the question about why people are still spending their time on this subforum trying to convince truthers of the errors of their ways and playing footsie with the trolls.

Personally, I'm bored silly with troof which is why I seldom post here anymore.
 
The poll was of "likely voters," not registered voters, and, yes, it does tell us something about the intelligence of the American public, but it does not tell us that 61% of democrats believed 9/11 was an inside job. That was Sword of Truthyness' spin on the poll.

Oh, certainly :)

However, even if there was a poll that showed 95% of architects and structural engineers worldwide believed in the current version of da twoof, all that would tell us is that we should start living in tents :)

It doesn't matter how many people polls show something, the facts remain as they are. The fact is there is not a shred of proof any of the CTers theories are remotely correct.

McHrozni
 
I'm by all confused by this. There's not a shred of evidence that any of our Truther heros even believe that any of their CT theories are even true. Like a bunch of key board commandos, they tirelessly post videos claiming that thousands were murdered.

Why does anybody do anything? Why don't we all live in caves and wear the simplest of clothing? I can barely understand why I do anything and I have immediate access to my reasons. You tell me why anybody posts here when we all know the Truther movement is dead? It may be we find the whole thing so offensive, the idea that anybody does or might believe in it is enough to make us want to stomp it out. Just think of it like the KKK. No one joins the Klan anymore except morons. That doesn't mean you should stop caring about who joins it.
 

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