Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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How dumb - the observation that energy is conserved (locally) is evidence.
Nobody have ever observed that photon energy (apparently lost due to cosmological redshift) .... is converted to gravity.
RC.... stop this crap.

One more time for the simple minded: it depends
if energy is conserved globally then the energy lost by cosmologically red-shifted photons goes into the gravitational field.
if energy is not conserved globally then there is no problem - - the photons just lose energy!.
Haleluja halejula
Amen.

Still displaying your ignorance: The objective scientific method is
We do not measure an expanding universe locally (within the Local Group).
The reason that we do not is that gravity dominates, .
Haleluja halejula
Amen.

e.g. it dominates so much that the Andromeda Galaxy is blue-shifted (not red-shifted) and will collide with us in a couple of billion years
No, The blue shift from Andromeda is not caused due to Cosmological Redshift but simple Doppler effect
Andromeda is approaching us.
This is something very different.
 
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Don't pretend you know what you are talking about, it males you look even more stupid.
 
I would like to celebrate the achievement of 100 pages of bjarne's cow stuff.

A rose, by any other name, ...
 
You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother
Albert Einstein

Bah. I'd like to see Einstein explain Gr to his grandmother.

Yes 1 / 0

If you think that comes even close to explaining a computer, you are even more stupid than I thought.

Put it this way; - imaging you always would refuse to even try to understand how the motherboard, CPU, power supply, hard disk, RAM - is connected with each other, you would have some great problems, and several mysteries to crack.

I perfectly understand how they are connected with each other.

Ohh yaah man
Gasoline + ignition causes pressure that can push a car.

No. You sort of ... at least ... forgot oxygen.

But, Bjarne, be my guest. Keep exposing yourself as a complete fool. :p

Hans
 
Bah. I'd like to see Einstein explain Gr to his grandmother.
This is excactly the point
Grandmother will not understand it.
You not too.
Nobody will.
A half wind is and will always be a half wind.
Swift on the right Brian, - swift on a coherence perspective, - it will make a difference for both you and your grandmother, and evrybody else. .

What I am saying….. imaging…. ( even it it may be hard for you) that several pieces of “something” this morning was landed outside your house, - you and grandmother would have no idea what “these” are, but it seems these must have fall from the sky.

I don’t know how your brain now would work now (but I fear the worse), - anyway at least a cow would try to put the pieces together and at least try to find some kind of possible pattern, to at least imaging what it could be.

But you know in orthodox physics “scientist” are not always allowed to think coherently, - simply because in physics even old holy expressions are “forbidden” to touch.

So the only problem Grandmother really have is that you properly not would allow here to use here right brain half, - right ?

I mean the holy scientific text book do not allow grandmother to even play with old orthodox expressions and hence also not to use her own imagination right ?

Now go to your grandmother and tell her the truth,;
Space is a thin soup.
Everything is made of that thin soup.
I am sure grandmother would say; Ahhhh you mean a thin soup with balls. ?
Yess grandmother … the balls is also made of the soup you should honestly explain here, - and therefore the soup density is thinner close to the balls..

Ahhhh grandmother would say, - so we can say the soup is deforming especially near the balls, - right?

Exactly grandmother, - we can say: the soup is deforming close to the balls, - but don’t be confused, it only means that the balls have absorbed soup-density, - especially near the balls.

Ahhh Grandmother would say now I understand GR.

Yes grandmother and you can also understand that the balls can convert back to where it original come from, - > into the same thin soap, - can’t’ you.?

Yes Grandmother would say, ...this is how to understand what a gravity wave (and so called dark energy) , - isn’t it?

So as you can see, - grandmother is not so stupid, - the problem is rather that you properly expect here to be so.
Muuhhh.
 
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bjarne - Why are you doing this? You don't have any understanding of physics, yet you persist in trying to engage some people who do in arguments on topics that are truly out of your grasp.

You babble inanely about cows.

How in the world do you earn a living?

Do you have any friends who are aware of your beliefs?
 
This is excactly the point
Grandmother will not understand it.
You not too.
Nobody will.
A half wind is and will always be a half wind.
*sniiiip*

The only wind from you comes from your backside.

Bjarne, go back to restoring your farmhouse, selling car parts, hijacking internets domains, etc. Maybe you are good at that.

Here, you are just typing word salad.

Hans
 
The only wind from you comes from your backside.

Bjarne, go back to restoring your farmhouse, selling car parts, hijacking internets domains, etc. Maybe you are good at that.

Hans

OK, - but only when you continues to cook soup based on old socks.
 
OK, - but only when you continues to cook soup based on old socks.

Bjarne, seriously. I's be delighted to discuss physics and stuff with you, but, I'm sorry to say, you are out of your league. You base your arguments on ignorance, and since many here have, in vain, tried to educate you, I must conclude: Deliberate ignorance. Another word for this is 'stupidity'.

I don't know what you get out of this. Perhaps it pleases you to arrogant to people who actually know something. This may work inside your own head, but I have to inform you that to the rest of us, you are making a total fool of yourself.

Hans
 
Bjarne, seriously. I's be delighted to discuss physics and stuff with you, but, I'm sorry to say, you are out of your league. You base your arguments on ignorance, and since many here have, in vain, tried to educate you, I must conclude: Deliberate ignorance. Another word for this is 'stupidity'.

I don't know what you get out of this. Perhaps it pleases you to arrogant to people who actually know something. This may work inside your own head, but I have to inform you that to the rest of us, you are making a total fool of yourself.

Hans


I absolutely agree.
 
Bjarne, seriously. I's be delighted to discuss physics and stuff with you, but, I'm sorry to say, you are out of your league. You base your arguments on ignorance, and since many here have, in vain, tried to educate you, I must conclude: Deliberate ignorance. Another word for this is 'stupidity'.
I am very happy that cows do not share your opinion, ands also not the other half of the wind doesn’t..
And worse at all is (as I tried to explain you), your own grandmother do also not understand your naive view, - according to what space and gravity waves really are and not are, does and not does.
I am also sure that you too really not understand what you (and RC) pretend to understand.

I don't know what you get out of this. Perhaps it pleases you to arrogant to people who actually know something.
I know that cows hope that one day naive humans will understand that the orthodox creeds you blindly believe in, - conflicts with science itself on 2 major levels.
All you have to counteract such simple critic is nothing but blab la bla.

  • Photons do NOT lose energy- Photons does NOT convert energy to gravity energy. Such naïve statements is NOT science but naïve thought that originals from incompetent dreamers.
  • Local distances are NOT affected by the so-called expansion. There is NOTHING that proves that gravity locally counteracts. Such naïve statements is NOT science but naïve thought that originals from incompetent dreamers.

This may work inside your own head, but I have to inform you that to the rest of us, you are making a total fool of yourself.
Never mind it is never popular to contradict a world full of naïve orthodox extremist.
Cows too know this, and because cows are so polite and intelligent you do very rarely hear one single muuuh. You know cows know beforehand that the concrete is much too thick...
But I am a freedom fighter.
My children shall not be brainwashed by dreamers, but instead learn to be critical.
One day I can guarantee you I will wipe out that naïve silly chapter of science we here are discussing.
 
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My children shall not be brainwashed by dreamers, but instead learn to be critical.
I sincerely hope that your children have the chance to be educated by knowledgeable professionals; forcing the tripe in your head onto impressionable youngsters borders on metal cruelty.


One day I can guarantee you I will wipe out that naïve silly chapter of science we here are discussing.
Out of all the really stupid, really arrogant and really really ill founded statements you have made, that comes pretty near the top of the list.
 
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