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If Obama wins the election, will his public position be in favor of gay marriage?

If Obama wins the election, will his public position be in favor of gay marriage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 49.1%

  • No

    Votes: 16 28.1%

  • On Planet X, gay marriage is the only possible form of marriage

    Votes: 13 22.8%
  • Total voters
    57
pgwenthold said:
Obama's problem is that he doesn't support gay marriage, but he is smart enough to realize that he is wrong to oppose it. Not "wrong" in a political sense, but in an absolute sense.

His heart says no, but his head says that there is no rational opposition to it. If he really supports equal rights, he must support it. But he doesn't like it.
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I would not guess to know his heart. I think if he had pushed for it it could have hurt other parts of his agenda.

He has not made gay rights a main issue but he has made some substantive steps on them.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Ah, hope springs eternal. Will he also come out as an atheist :p ?
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I think atheism in the US is a lot more controversial than homosexuality.

Tsukasa Buddha said:
If the current rumours are accurate, then it means he is a spineless stooge who puts his and his party's political success above fighting for the rights of others.
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Politicians who don't favor their political party's success the most aren't successful politicians. It's natural selection in their industry. However, a while ago, there was a poll suggesting that the majority of Americans now favor gay marriage. The public's opinion is clearly moving in that direction.
 
I expect him to make some strides considering he said his views were "evolving". That seems to be a subdued way of saying vote for me again and i'll be more direct in my support of gay rights legislation.

I don't know if he'll actively support gay marriage but it would not surprise me if he at least actively supported the repeal of DOMA during his second term.
 
Juniversal said:
I expect him to make some strides considering he said his views were "evolving". That seems to be a subdued way of saying vote for me again and i'll be more direct in my support of gay rights legislation.

I don't know if he'll actively support gay marriage but it would not surprise me if he at least actively supported the repeal of DOMA during his second term.
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He has already taken the position that it is unconstitutional. What more is there?


I don't see how fighting a losing battle with congress over DOMA helps people. It would never get to a vote after all.
 
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Dessi said:
I read this comment and my stomach immediate sank and went cold. It absolutely frightens me that anyone would consciously appeal to the most vile anti-gay bigots to score votes. Its not a voting strategy, attitudes like that fan the flames of anti-gay bias and cause real harm to Americans like me. Its exactly the same as scoring political points by playing on racial fears and anti-semitism.

There are lots of good criticisms of the Obama administration, but its is never ever ever appropriate to marginalize LGBT people for political advantage.
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As Democrats have done and are doing you mean?
 
SezMe said:
You're not going to vote at all? Just because you don't like the lugs at the top, there's no reason to ignore all the down-ballot races and measures.
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No, I'm not going to vote at all. My disgust is with Obama, however I live in New York State which has closed primaries (I'm an independent). Gillibrand's seat in the Senate is safe as is my Democratic Congressperson and Democratic state legislators.
 
SezMe said:
The folks staying here thank you for your efforts.
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I've put in my efforts, 30 years of never missing a vote, 18 years of government service in a job which I will probably soon be losing due to this administration's efforts. No one died for my right to vote for a candidate I don't support and in this presidential election, I support none.

For 15 years straight I personally ran my school's voter registration campaign which registered hundreds of young people to vote so your indignation at my my current decision to not exercise MY right to vote is, in my, opinion misplaced.
 
Alt+F4 said:
I've put in my efforts, 30 years of never missing a vote, 18 years of government service in a job which I will probably soon be losing due to this administration's efforts. No one died for my right to vote for a candidate I don't support and in this presidential election, I support none.

For 15 years straight I personally ran my school's voter registration campaign which registered hundreds of young people to vote so your indignation at my my current decision to not exercise MY right to vote is, in my, opinion misplaced.
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That's a great story, seriously, I mean it.

Shame to **** it up now.
 
I'm going to support Alt+F4. I think she has the right to not vote and to do so without guilt.

JMO.
 
DavidJames said:
That's a great story, seriously, I mean it.

Shame to **** it up now.
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What would really mess it up is me voting for someone I don't support. I'll continue to teach young people how to be responsible citizens in a democracy as long as Obama's awful education policy allows me to keep working. I may not have a job for much longer, but at least I'll have my principles.
 
Howie Felterbush said:
Hey!

Where you during the last presidential election when I made this exact same argument and got hounded like I was the guy that farted in church?:confused:

I could have used some help.
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Sorry. I'm not sure I was in any of those discussions. I think Americans have the right to do many things that I disagree with including not voting. Besides, IMO I think Alt+F4 has provided her civic bona fides.
 
RandFan said:
I'm going to support Alt+F4. I think she has the right to not vote and to do so without guilt.

JMO.
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MOAW, however I think I have only voted for someone I really wanted a very small number of times.

I voted for Obama, he has dome about what I expected. He has disappointed me on the secret detentions and summary execution stuff.
 
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