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There are some anomalies that are simply too clear to obfuscate and you maintain they aren't anomalies.
The tip of Collins' jacket corner is not being held down by the bottle on his chest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
(00:52 time mark)
It bends when it goes from side to side as he jogs in place so we know it's not stiff. There is no identifiable force making it stay down and behave in a way that's one hundred percent consistent with its being in strong gravity execpt the gravity explanation. Betamax's contention that the bottle is keeping it there is clearly wrong.
Then, there's the flag anomaly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
(2:30 time mark)
MythBusters tried to obfuscate this but ended up confirming it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
There is a point at which things are so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective and those two anomalies are well beyond that point. Normal intelligent objective people simply know that footage was faked as soon as they see it. The ones who go into denial because they're experiencing cognitive dissonance usually slink away. Those are such clear anomalies that anyone who says they're not anomalies and continuously argues that they're not can't believe what he or she is saying. The only people you might be swaying with your attitudes are viewers who don't take the time to look at the videos; some of them may be swayed by rhetoric.
Jay Windley has refused to even address those anomalies as he knows that anyone who tries to obfuscate them will just end up looking silly. It's better to duck the issue and try to bury it deep in the thread to at least reduce the number of people who see it and then go on as if nothing had happened.
You also maintain that the Chinese spacwalk was real which totally discredits all of you (see post #8506). You also agreed with Jay Windley when he said this...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990
...in response to this.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907
You can pretend all you want but none of you has any credibility.
I keep telling you what I think of your poll and the fact that there are about twenty posters here who don't agree with me. Here's the quote from post #8364.
You know I'm not going to risk getting banned by clearly stating what I think is going on here on this thead so you'll just have to infer what I think from the above as I'm taking a risk just by posting that; I don't dare go beyond that and you know it.
Let's hear Jay Windley's rebuttal to my rebuttal to BetaMax's analysis of Collins' swinging jacket corner.
Then seeing as you are too much of a coward and don't want to get banned I'll state it for you.
You believe most of the different posters in this thread are the work or very few people acting in concert to discredit you, the true hero of the anti-Apollo movement. You believe that those posters know that Apollo is fake and are desperate to cover up the truth.
Close enough? Bit rich coming from someone who spams under many guises no?
Let me make this clear, just in case I haven't done so before: I have never acted with anyone else to post in defence of Apollo. I have never agreed a party line. I believe completely and totally that the landings happened as documented. I have invested a considerable amount of my own personal time and money in learning about them and researching new ways of proving them to be true. Accusations to the contrary are false, unfounded, and have no basis in reality.
Clear? If you have proof that the above is not true, post it. The truth is more important than the niceties of forum etiquette. Actual evidence that what I have stated there is a lie, and you will have your little victory.
Now, how about answering the questions that have been put to you instead of dipping in to your lucky bag of spam and regurgitating the same old tired nonsense.
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