information on actual studies previously in my posts. Since they appear to have a problem finding them, I'll place links here - these refer to the studies, court cases, data that show a 95% (or greater) failure rate for AA, etc: The following links do make for a bit of reading, but I urge everyone to read the following material if they are interested in learning more about the religious nature & cult aspects of AA.
One more thing I will repeat - and keep repeating until AA supporters either stop lying about what AA is, or stop intentionally lying about what I am asserting:
AA is flatly religious. Dozens of major courts have ruled AA is religious. AA's material is nearly completely religious. It appears to help the
same people (around 5%) as get sober on their
own willpower, those who are ready and willing to quit already -
the same 5%, not additive. Another way to put that -
doing nothing has the same failure / success rate as AA. And, if you are in a group that doesn't use the 12 steps, the big book, or the 12x12 as written, and you are sober - great!! But
stop claiming such a thing is an AA group - if it's not religious & spiritual, it's not AA..if god and the higher power is removed from your program & group, it's not AA - it's something else. If it's worked for you, well then I'm happy for you - but
stop claiming it's AA.
AA's Failure Rate
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-...s62.html#coins
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-...181.html#Green
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-...8.html#success
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-...tml#what_works
The Effectiveness of the 12 Steps
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html