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Old 13th February 2019, 06:04 AM   #937
byn63
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
To put it politely that's not true.
Yes it is TRUE

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
You are lying.
No, I am not.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The police and Army CID, and even the FBI are apt to jump to conclusions.
Maybe they are but that is irrelevant to the discussions at hand.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
Murtagh illegally withheld the exculpatory evidence
No, he did not. The courts found that nothing was withheld. The information was in the documentation provided to the defense. The FACT that the defense did not bother to completely review all of the documentation is not the fault or responsibility of the prosecution.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
until the defense found out about it after the trial
That is a lie. The evidence was in the discovery information received by the defense. they failed to appreciate its importance and/or failed to review what was in the documentation. Too bad for them. It is not the prosecution's responsibility to point out evidentiary items to the defense.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
and Stombaugh and Malone made up the evidence.
Liar, Liar, pants on fire!

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
Thornton admitted that both of them, Segal and Thornton, rather complacently thought MacDonald would be acquitted
Complacently - good word for it - but the details are that Segal and his team did not bother to review ALL of the evidence and his ego is partly to blame. He believed that there was not much evidence so he played games and attempted to get the evidence shipped cross country knowing full well that no Judge would approve that happening. Bernie didn't review the evidence that doesn't mean it was withheld it means he didn't do his job very well.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
and that it would have taken about six months to properly examine and test all the forensics.
Which goes to how strong the evidence was AND points out again how idiotic Bernie was for his machinations that he KNEW would result in him having to send his forensic experts to Raleigh anyway. He should have done that at the beginning rather than play games. Still, doesn't make the evidence withheld it makes the defense BAD. Maybe inmate should have tried an appeal on insufficient counsel....

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
They were also taken by surprise when a trial date was announced, after a decision by the misguided Supreme Court.
No, they were not the defense was involved in the hearings to set dates etc.

Funny how in your world everyone but the mass murderer has some failing. The US Supreme Court was not misguided.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
Thornton was only granted some rather inadequate lab facilities in Raleigh
LIE! He was granted access to very good and extensive lab facilities.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
and no access to the lab notes of Stombaugh and Frier and Glisson or Kathy Bond, or Browning, were granted to him by Murtagh and Dupree.
It was not Murtagh's responsibility to provide DEFENSE experts with documentation. That was Bernie's job.

Judge's don't have anything to do with the evidence physically. They make the legal calls others DO the actions. Bernie had the material, that he didn't share it with his experts is on him. PERIOD. You need to put the blame where it belongs - on inmate for slaughtering his family and on Bernie for having so much ego that he thought he'd be able to beat the government AFTER all the evidence was analyzed like he had in the Article 32 where less than half of the evidence was analyzed.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
He was only able to concentrate on the pajama top and the bloodstains on the bedsheet which was the priority.
Bernie's fault....

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The pajama fibers, and hairs, which later became crucial for the jury were largely ignored by Thornton.
Again, Bernie's fault

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The corrupt bias by the judges,
Only in your world are the Judges anything less than skilled and intelligent jurists, and there was no bias, inmate was PROVEN guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Your doubts are not reasonable....

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
or the lack of extremely competent judges,
No lack of competent Judges in this case. they were/are all very competent and were not taken in by the lies of inmate or the egotistical condescension of Bernie Segal.

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
or the proven contempt of court and bias by the foreman of the jury, was never addressed.
Can not have it both ways henri - either something is proven or it was never addressed. Since the Jury Foreman was not in contempt of court nor biased this is just another one of your ridiculous "unreasonable" claims....

Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
It was a mistrial and kangaroo court and gross miscarriage of justice.
It was an excellent trial and no mistrial. Justice was done for the victims of this case which you apparently have never figured out do not include inmate. The VICTIMS were Colette, Kimberley, Kristen, and unborn baby boy. Why do you hate them?
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