Originally Posted by
nraden
There are many people who have been on this protocol for years. Untested in the sense of a randomized clinical trial? True. Do you have any idea how many things you use in a day that have not been through such a trial?
However, you are right, it has not been put through that kind of test, hopefully it will soon. But my question for you is why do you think it "has a good chance of causing harm?" What evidence do you have for that?
Just who are these doctors in the "HRT business"? I don't know any. You make sweeping generalizations like this, and then make comments like this to clarify:
Originally Posted by nraden
Oh yes they are. Many receive kickbacks one way or the other from the compounding pharmacies they (illegally) direct their patients to. Others, like Erika Schwartz, charge $850 for a 15 minute telephone interview and then prescribe without ever seeing the patient, directing them to a pharmacy THEY OWN which dispenses at inflated prices. Most "wellness" doctors sell supplements directly from their offices. Part of the reason so many of the "natural" BHRT docs are up in arms with Wiley is that she threatens their livelihood. She is down on the supplements and strongly suggests (she can't set) that the registered pharmacies not charge more than $37.50 per hormone per month.
Also, there is a notion in BHRT that each patient needs a "customized" hormone preparation. The doctors charge an arm and a leg to do this, which usually results in a Rx from a short list of templates that they've worked out with their pharmacist.
Who are these "wellness" doctors"? Are you talking about medical doctors (MDs)? Or are you making statements that apply only to a fringe few who portray themselves as something that they are not?
Originally Posted by nraden
Sorry, you're wrong. I know many doctors in the HRT business and they are all making money it. What you would call ethical and what a doctor sees as their property are not the same. Doctors think they are going broke. They think they have to find a way to make money beyond just office visit fees. It's endemic. Sorry, you are wrong.
Physicians are being squeezed by reductions in reimbursements and increases in malpractice and administrative costs. To take that as some type of proof that they are all resorting to unethical behavior is just sad. But I'll go so far ask to ask why you think that any doc would open him/herself up to the medicolegal risks that such behavior carries? Aside from being unethical, it's just not practical.
Originally Posted by nraden
I receive no compensation and neither does T.S. Wiley. I've already explained that. At some point, if the WP is very popular, her company that provides training and branded packaging could provide a nice income, but it hasn't for 12 years. It is pointless for all of you to look for a big payoff motive here, it doesn't exist.
And yet you allege so many profit motives among physicians. Again, must be comforting to live in such a black and white world.
No. It's not pointless to look for your profit motive. If you were really interested in helping women, you wouldn't make false accusations about physicians, misrepresent the information that is out there such as that in the WHI while also acting like there is no good non-Big-Pharm studies showing HRT's benefits, you wouldn't provide inaccurate information here or on the website, and you would have established the efficacy and safety of Wiley's protocol before avocating it publically.
Maybe it is a desire to elevate your own importance which is at the root of this. Put a wedge between women and those who really wish to help them and then ingratiate yourselves with women by portraying yourselves as coming to their rescue with your own, untested but
natural remedy. If it's not a profit motive driving this, then perhaps it's a hero complex.