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Old 4th November 2019, 11:50 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
That's an irrelevant distinction. Any costs related to malpractice insurance need to be covered by whatever fees the doctor or medical institution charges.

Yes, but those other countries often have ways to limit malpractice payouts and insurance... limits on payments, rules about how lawyers are paid, etc.

The point is that if you go to a single payer without changing the malpractice laws, your costs may still be higher than they could be.
Yes and no, a large part of the high malpractice payouts is paying for future medical care of those injured. If that was just part of the general health care costs you wouldn't have the courts trying to figure out what a reasonable amount is for someone who will live for years needing constant care.
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Ah yes, the most crappy argument that was ever put forward, but which keeps getting repeated over and over again. "Be happy with waiting lists because at least you will be treated quickly if its an emergency". Its a bogus argument, because it ignores the real pain and suffering that can result from being stuck on a waiting list (not to mention it can also lead to premature death, even if its not an emergency).
Except of course the wait times are often shorter than in america. And getting in to the right doctor your insurance covers is not exactly without a wait in the US.

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I have a cousin. He injured his shoulder (possibly a rotator cuff injury). He finds it very painful for him to raise his arms, but has to suffer though because his job involves physical activity. He was stuck on a waiting list for several months to get an MRI for a proper diagnosis. To you his pain and suffering doesn't matter because "gee wiz if its an emergency he'll get treated". Its not an emergency. He's suffering. If he were in the United States he probably would have had an MRI within a week.
Or you know not because the doctor who would even order the MRI can't see him for months.
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