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Old 24th February 2021, 05:21 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by angrysoba View Post
Here's an important point:

One of the supposedly compelling pieces of evidence is that the outbreak - or at least the emergence - of Covid-19 began in Wuhan when the idea is that it came from bats that dwell in caves in Yunnan Province. But that's like 100s of kilometres away! How is it possible that a coronavirus found in bats travelled 100s of kilometres!!!?!?!? How is it even possible?!?!

The theory then is that Wuhan Institute of Virology scientists to Yunnan, extracted the coronavirus from the bats, went back to Wuhan and let the virus escape because of shoddy protocols and then kept quiet about it because of "face" (*yawn*!)...

Except, why were they down in Yunnan in the first place? Well, because that is where SARS Cov1 was thought to have come from. So is that where SARS Cov1 emerged? No, it emerged in Guandong Province. But that's like 100s of kilometres away! How is it possible that a coronavirus found in bats travelled 100s of kilometres!!!?!?!? How is it even possible?!?!

Could it be that Guandong and Wuhan are both big cities and transport hubs, and that vast amounts of travellers and produce from all over China pass through there every day?

No! I want to ruminate instead on important questions of the concept of face. That's what scientists do after all...
Of course it could be. The original SARS obviously traveled --and given the distance to the source was not a likely place for it start its' spread.

There are currently 113 cities in China with over 1 million people in the urban areas. It could have emerged anywhere, even outside of China, though it would be more likely in a closer city or one with some close 'supply' chain relation to the area. The difference with Wuhan is that we KNOW these SARS-related viruses went there, purposely, multiple times over many years, from persons having direct contact with the people, animals, and caves at the source. And so a theory that those travels contributed to the emergence there becomes more likely- however it happened. I am perplexed that it sounds so conspiratorial.

Going by just the 'main hub' train stations (of the 5500 they have), Yunnan to Guangdong is one main hub away. Wuhan looks like three hubs away.


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