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Old 27th February 2013, 09:11 AM   #5333
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Originally Posted by GIBHOR View Post
according to your world view, you cannot say, either its moral, or not.
Yes, we can. We can say this because homosexuals are human beings who are contributing members of society. We can say this because we use logic to recognize that homosexuality between responsible, consenting adults causes no harm to anyone and is simply part of the pursuit of happiness and well-being that makes for a healthy society. The Bible, on the other hand, was written by people who did not use logic to formulate and justify a morality for the purpose of maintaining a healthy, productive society, but rather declared their mindless bigotry to be the unimpeachable law of the universe, thus refusing to justify or take responsibility for their actions.

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What is the moral difference between killing your neighbour, and killing his cat ?
The difference is that we place a much higher value on the life of other human beings than on cats. Not that killing a neighbor's cat is not a disgusting action deserving of civil punishment, but killing another human being is an action that causes harm to the human community. It matters because we want to live in a society in which we can prosper and grow.

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according to your world view, none.
Are passive/aggressive smilies the best you can offer to defend your position?

The universe may be indifferent to our survival or extinction, but it matters to us because we want to survive. We want to know that, even though we as individuals will die, the human species will continue on after us. We survive as a social species. Together, we can achieve things that are impossible alone. We can prosper greatly when we work for each other.

The great joke of this thread is that you declare your god to be the ultimate source of objectively correct morality, then when we point out the positively evil edicts attributed to said god, you say, "You don't have to obey those evil laws any more". Your "objective" morality has changed.
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