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Old 21st May 2021, 07:57 AM   #1754
Michel H
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Originally Posted by webfusion View Post
Point of reference:
Prior to June 1967, Israel did not have 'legal borders' --- the land area of "Israel" in 1967 was only demarcated by military cease-fire Agreements from 1949 (known collectively as Rhodes Armistices).

In those Agreements, the idea of "borders" was specifically rejected as being an element of the areas defined within the documents.

https://mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy...agreement.aspx
It is true that there are currently no (very) clear, legally well defined borders for the state of Israel.

However, it seems that the (pre-)1967 border or 1949 "Green Line" is implicitly recognized by the United Nations as the official border of Israel, recognized by most of the international community.

The French wikipedia writes, in its article "Borders of Israel":
Quote:
Les frontières internationalement reconnues telles que lors de son admission à l'ONU sont celles dites « de 1967 » et suivent la ligne verte, c'est-à-dire les lignes d'armistice de la guerre israélo-arabe de 1948.
or
Quote:
The internationally recognized borders of Israel, valid when it was admitted to the United Nations, are the so-called "1967" ones, and follow the armistice lines of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war
(Link: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fronti...%27Isra%C3%ABl )

United Nations Security Council resolution 2334 (December 2016) says:
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- Condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions,

- Expressing grave concern that continuing Israeli settlement activities are
dangerously imperilling the viability of the two-State solution based on the 1967 lines
,
(https://www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdf )

This is a way of telling implicitly that the 1967 line is the internationally recognized (or, at least, "desired") border of Israel.

The Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs (that you quote) itself explains (see https://mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy...20general.aspx ):
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Admission of Israel to the United Nations, General Assembly Resolution 273 (III), 11 May 1949:


In the fall of 1948, Israel had applied for membership in the United Nations but failed to win the necessary majority in the Security Council. In the spring of 1949, the application was renewed. This time, armistice agreements having been signed between Israel and Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon, Israel was admitted by 37 votes in favour, 12 against, with 9 abstentions.
In other words, Israel was admitted only because it had accepted (together with its Arab neighbours) the 1949 border (even though it was viewed at the time as the a "demarcation line", see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel), but there no big difference between a demarcation line and a border). This might be viewed as a U.N. approval of the 1949 Green Line.

It seems clear to me (and we are not yet seeing the end of this conflict) that Arabs and Israelis, who are constantly fighting, need to be told by the international community, not just what their legal border is not, but actually what their legal border is.

Last edited by Michel H; 21st May 2021 at 08:08 AM.
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