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Old 4th May 2019, 01:59 PM   #330
cullennz
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
The rise of Nazi Germany establishes the probability of white nationalists achieving a controlling political power at 1. It is delusional to say this eventuality "can't happen" when it already has. And we have seen what it looks like when that happens, too. It is something that actively needs to be prevented from happening again. There's no excuse for ignoring a threat of that magnitude.

And there's also no excuse for pretending that at some point between 1945 and the present day, "something happened" that magically made a recurrence of this eventuality completely impossible so that we don't have to worry about it anymore. Being contented with blind faith that the collective happy thoughts of humanity or whatever other deus ex machina would somehow intervene before things got that far, is every bit as stupid as conservatives smugly refusing to consider climate change a threat because they just know that God would never let the world get messed up enough to ruin humanity's QOL and besides Jesus is coming to take us all a way in a few years anyway.

Facist, white nationalist parties are gaining positions of political control in Europe. It's already happening again, because people thought it couldn't and so never bothered to expend effort combatting its obvious resurgence. Those guys were always just kooks on street corners, "idiots wearing insignia". And the ones that weren't wearing insignia - well they obviously weren't "real Nazis" so who cares about them? Yeah, only now they're sitting in national assemblies, and the UK is leaving the EU because of their successful influence. "We need to be saved from the brown people" still resonates with enough white people that this threat will always exist.
Something did happen

It is called the internet and everyone being aware of pretty much every stupid thing that happens on a street corner like this case, and modern warfare.

"Facist, white nationalist parties are gaining positions of political control in Europe. "

Is this an excuse to biff something at this idiots head?, as I find it flimsy

Edit: And no one said completely impossible. This need to twist peoples points into something no one has said is a bit silly

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