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Old 20th November 2012, 05:15 PM   #299
Garnabby
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Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy View Post
You've probably heard the term "spacetime" or "space/time" though, right? It's one thing - space AND time.
Space isn't time per se. And, the "one thing", as you put it, arises from only the apparent convenience of combining the two directly in those physics-related equations.

So, perhaps, a lot of that way of thinking has served to deepen the cosmological "hole" in which it thusly appears those scientists still find themselves.

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy View Post
Bending space (with mass, say) also affects time spent in that space, compared to an outside reference. Clocks tick slower. Particles live longer.
Sounds good, but as Einstein reportedly asked, eg, "What IS light?"

Physicists are slow to say what they're really thinking, or to admit to what they haven't a clue. And, it would be a refreshing change to have some good, old-fashioned debate (, eg, even about the Higg's particle here in that thread.) Because brutish equations only beget more equations, as in "pushers get pushed", ask, eg, from where come any equations.

Specifically, logically there's not "exactly" any space either at a point. (Likely a good reason that no one has even begun to figure out such a point.) So, all this spatial "wiggling" aside, what now?

Originally Posted by Beelzebuddy View Post
That's what current physics says exists, extrapolating from that Relativity thing you think Einstein stole.
Don't the rules here say that the new guys can't post up links to other sites? Technically-supportive quote(s) "cry out" for a link.

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