Thread: [Continuation] Signs of the End Times - Part Two
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Old 4th November 2016, 04:47 AM   #259
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Originally Posted by Paul Bethke View Post
Well Sir, if you want to enter into the faith, I have already stated what is required.
No, that wasn't our deal. Let me remind you:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9#post11529769

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak
How about showing us now?
Show us the empty graves, whose former occupants were taken into hell, according to the Bible quote you supplied.
Show us the unmistakable proof of your god's power that, according to the Bible quote you supplied, should have been given 2,000 years ago.
Then you've proved your point and saved my soul.
Don't you want my soul to be saved?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...3#post11531373

Originally Posted by Paul Bethke
So you are saying that when I provide indisputable evidence then you will convert to the faith?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...9#post11533109

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak
Yup. I thought that was quite clear.

Whenever you're ready, Paul.
I refer you back to my original post:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com...7#post11570867

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak
If you had provided me with the indisputable proof of the existence of your god that you have promised me, I wouldn't need to guess, and neither would anyone else.
There are, as I see it, two possible reasons why you have not yet done this. Firstly, you don't actually have any indisputable proof. If this is the case, then you've just proved the NT to be wrong, as the two quotes you supplied to me clearly show that proof should be easy to find.
Secondly, you do have proof, but you don't want to post it. This makes all your professed love for your neighbours and devotion to the words of your god (who told you to evangelise) so much hollow vanity. You don't want to save my soul, nor the soul of anyone else. Instead, you get off on your self-proclaimed position as the voice of your god, and the only true Christian in the world, a position that enables you to talk down to people as you did in the post I have quoted above.

Which of these choices most accurately summarises your position, Paul Bethke?

ETA: A third option has just occurred to me. When you offered to provide indisputable proof, you were actually lying, and had no intention of providing it, whether you had it or not.
It doesn't really help your unenviable position, but it does give you a third option besides a rock and a hard place. Never let it be said that I am not a generous debater.
Option 1, option 2 or option 3, Paul Bethke.Please don't dodge like you did before. Let your yes be yes, and your no be no.
Originally Posted by Paul Bethke View Post
The proof of my confidence in the upcoming events is of a personal revelation, which cannot be understood by those who suffer from misplaced speculation.

So when the time comes I will show people the proof of the existence of the Creator, the God of Israel.
So, lookng at that, my guess is option 1: you don't have the evidence the NT says exists. No need for secret personal revelations at all, unless what you quoted was false. Right?

So, one more time: stick to the deal. Show me the indisputable proof, and I will convert. If you keep acting shifty about this, you damage your credibility even more than you already have. It's out here on the internet for everyone to see. Now's your chance, Paul Bethke. Show the world the proof, and save a soul to boot.
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