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Old 19th February 2013, 01:28 PM   #952
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Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
Problems with the Higgs particle are well-known to theoretical particle physicists, so it's not like you are revealing some great secret that they are keeping.
Exactly. I'm telling it how it is. And the true picture is very different to the cosmic-treacle nonsense which many people take as a given.

Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
He did not, and no amount of text-thumping can change that.
Yes he did. In his 1905 paper Does the Inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?. It depends upon its energy content, not something else. You'll be dismissing E=mc˛ as cherry-picking text-thumping next.

Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
News to me. Everybody in this business thinks that they are fields,
No they don't. Everybody in the business who knows anything about electromagnetism knows that the field concerned is the electromagnetic field.

Originally Posted by lpetrich
even Maxwell and Einstein and Minkowski and others whom you are treating as prophets of revealed truth.
Wrong again. In his 1920 Leyden Address Einstein said "Of course it would be a great advance if we could succeed in comprehending the gravitational field and the electromagnetic field together as one unified conformation. Then for the first time the epoch of theoretical physics founded by Faraday and Maxwell would reach a satisfactory conclusion". He said electromagnetic field. Not electric field. Not magnetic field. Electromagnetic field. And in Space and Time Minkowski said "Then in the description of the field produced by the electron we see that the separation of the field into electric and magnetic force is a relative one with regard to the underlying time axis". And in 1864 Maxwell wrote A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field. Not electric field. Not magnetic field. Electromagnetic field. Sounds like you're preaching ignorance, lpetrich. Not a good thing to do on a skeptics forum.

Originally Posted by lpetrich
Thumping snipped. He was trying to explain something in nontechnical terms, not reveal some great truth that the equations cannot supply.
As ever you attempt to dismiss bona-fide physics using a "text thumping" excuse. Here, read what the guy said, and this time pay attention to it: "Then in the description of the field produced by the electron we see that the separation of the field into electric and magnetic force is a relative one with regard to the underlying time axis; the most perspicious way of describing the two forces together is on a certain analogy with the wrench in mechanics, though the analogy is not complete".
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