Originally Posted by
Akhenaten
@ SimonD
Firstly, an apology to you.
In my earlier post addressed to you I included a link that went to a joke article in Uncyclopędia.
She'll be right, mate.
Originally Posted by
Akhenaten
Akhenaten paints it as a draw, the Kiwi and the Aussie in the street sees it as our finest hour. YMMV
You really have to see the area for yourself to truly understand how much the soldiers suffered. I find it ironic that the greatest victory (with the least amount of dead) was the final withdrawal. Not that I am saying you haven't, just that reading books about what happen does not capture what an incredible moment it was in our history.
Originally Posted by
Akhenaten
Everyone loses in war. I say this as a former soldier.
Even though the Turks won the battle, the cost was very high in men. As you said, ever if you win, you still lose
Originally Posted by MG1962
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
This was said by Ataturk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk
If you go to Gallipoli you will hear and see this written everywhere.