Originally Posted by
Óðinn
Looks like the same foot to me.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16.../Pattyfoot.gif
Then how do you make deep tracks? Did Roger piggy back on Gimlin? You only have gravity to work with. Stamped with a sledge hammer? At least some of these tracks were made by a rolling foot, not a stamp.
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It would have been far easier to just have Bob H make the tracks while filming the PGF, then make 1 or 2 deeper (if they even were deeper), then cast the flat ones. Erasing Bob H's tracks then creating a convincing trackway might not be as easy as you think. Then you have to remove your own tracks. Way more work that's for sure. I'm going with that Occam dude until better info comes along. It doesn't mean it wasn't a guy in a suit, it would just exclude Bob H from being the guy. He is the one who claimed that Roger and Bob went back to fake the tracks, weeks later. If the PGF was actually filmed on Oct 20th, then Bob H is busted.
How "realistic" are the tracks anyway? Are they consistent with 2 stamps, a lefty and righty? And how much variance was there between those stamped tracks?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ty_tracks2.gif
We've argued these points before. The same things apply now. Would you agree that if the subject shown in the film was "real" that it would leave less of an impression in the ground of a human the same height/weight?
It would have to... considering the foot size in comparison to a humans foot size of the same height/weight. The subject depicted in the film has quite large feet when comparing to a human of equal height (using the foot as a ruler method, since you MUST consider this as a decent ruler if the creature is to be considered authentic) This has been pointed out previously, yet you choose to ignore it. Also Gimlin mentions that his horse tracks were not as deep as "pattys" tracks. Michael Dennet pointed this out very eloquently in
an article as well. You also seem to be ignoring this.
You can see in this footage that was alleged to be from the
"second reel" some tracks near those left by "patty" that appear to be horse tracks. Perhaps those that Gimlin describes? Even if you dont subscribe to that, you can compare them directly to Patterson standing/kneeling right next to the tracks in the same substrate on the same day. (allegedly)
As to how "I" would fake tracks, I wouldnt. But perhaps when Patterson told Krantz how he had previously faked tracks, they were done so in that fashion.
Quote:
on Page 32 of 'Big Footprints' by Grover S. Krantz 1992 2nd paragraph: Krantz writes:
'The shape of a footprint can be dug into the ground with the fingers and/or a hand tool, the interior pressed flat, and it can then be photographed or cast in plaster. My first footprint cast was made by a student in just this manner (Fig.10). Roger Patterson told me he did this once in order to get a movie of himself pouring a plaster cast for the documentary he was making. (A few days later, he filmed the actual Sasquatch; See Chapter 4).'
You might also consider, since he stated to Krantz that he had fabricated those tracks - he knew how to do so. Also, since he had filmed himself doing so, where is the footage of it? According to what Patterson told Krantz, there should be film of Patterson casting those fake tracks in the bluff creek area. (had to be in that area, according to their given timeline)
So, wheres the footage of the fabricated tracks being cast? According to Pattersons story there were ONLY two reels of film shot in bluff creek correct?
Of course if you choose to ignore the track depth, and the lack of footage containing Patterson casting those fake tracks he made... as well as those tracks do not match each other as well as you would like to think (which has been pointed out previously, if you wish I can do overlays of them) then sure....maybe you can believe that Heironimus, or some other person in a suit left these extremely deep tracks, that were 14½ inches long. uh... yeah.
Trackway was definitely faked, and its some of the best evidence that proves this film to be a hoax. Regardless of any of the circumstantial evidence regarding their timeline or background story its pretty damning and clear physical evidence IMHO.