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Old 19th August 2018, 02:09 AM   #44
Penultimate Amazing
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I know that "suicidal doomsday cults also existed long before the Internet," but they were different from the Heaven's Gate.

Jim Jones started out as a Christian-Socialist-Humanist Utopianist, and only turned 1) authoritarian, 2) paranoid, and then 3) homi-suicidal when it became increasingly obvious that his Utopianism was actually Utopian, i.e. a delusion, and that the authorities were on to him.
The weirdness of the Heaven's Gate with their cult of castration and "the level beyond human" was much more obviously weird from the outset.

I don't think that there's any reason to assume that Bernd Jürgen Armando Brandes would have been a serial killer. Maybe an auto-mutilator ...
"Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx

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