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Old 18th February 2019, 03:21 PM   #32
luchog
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Definitions of class are to some degree subjective. I consider working class to be those who work in a factory, mine, or farm all day. Not those who have time and money to attend college, even community ones, although I don't think the college in question is a community college. From that perspective I consider attending college, even community college, as movement into the middle class.

Attending a community college via a financial aid program, while not being able to afford both food and rent in the same month, is not "movement into the middle class". There are a lot of working class people who attend college thanks to government financial aid programs, who would not otherwise have been able to afford it.
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