Originally Posted by
Darth Rotor
What you are missing is two things:
1. The US isn't St Louis, nor is it East Saint Louis. It's a whole lot bigger than that.
2. Projecting upon all cops in the US your frustrations with St Louis/Ferguson is, IMO, an argument from emotion. I understand you feeling strongly about what happened there: it's local, and that which is local tends to touch us deeply.
Okay:
- I never said it was. I was responding to a post that misunderstood, in my opinion, the motivations behind protesters. Yes, the US is bigger than St. Louis, but neither is St. Louis atypical either. I have no idea why you brought East St. Louis into it.
- I have been nothing but logical in this thread. I have made no appeal to emotion. If you think otherwise, I encourage you to outline it specifically as I did to you when you starting painting a picture of lynch mobs and anarchy.
Originally Posted by
Darth Rotor
Now answer me this: who besides the currently sitting judges and DA are you asking to sort this out? That's who is in the job, just like in my county.
Okay, I've only answered several times in this thread already, but why not again?
I'm asking that this be sorted out by an independent third party. In the past, we've had an example of the federal courts successfully prosecuting local LEOs for abuse. In the current handling of protestors, the mayor and police chief are calling for an independent counsel. As I said,
the problem isn't judges and DAs. It's the judges and DAs who have a conflict of interest in trying the cops they work with.
I bolded the part you apparently keep missing every time I say it.
Originally Posted by
Darth Rotor
I am wondering at whether or not you view police officers as people, or as some objective force for injustice. From your posts, it is unclear.
Now,
this is an appeal to emotion.
I do view them as people. I do not view them as an objective force for justice, because they are people, capable of mistakes and biases.
I do not believe that a highly coupled judicial and law enforcement systems can reliably self-correct itself.
Do you?