Ok, I rephrase it: the block universe (reality) exists only as a timeless, non-local undetectable matematical entity. Like every mathematical entity, it can be conceptualised by a conscious mind. But it exists independent from minds. (see also:
theory of forms (platonism))
The exisence of an observer introduces a timeline.
No, time (as a dimension) and thus different temporal ordinal locations in time are part of the mathematics for the 4D map. As such and with your assertion of mathematical reality before they are thus part of that reality. Again you are trying to assert the existence of a "matematical entity", the 4D manifold, but just without the 4th D.
Yes, but time or the experience of causality is a result of the combination 'a mind' and 'the existence of this timeless, non-local block universe'.
No, the "experience of causality" is the result of, well, causality. Without it what you experience would have no causal relation to "the existence of" anything. Again the 4D manifold you have asserted as " non-local undetectable matematical entity" is explicitly not timeless.
All events on every moment exist simultaneiously as spacetime. Where the wave was, is and shall be exists in the block universe together. You as an observer moves through spacetime and have the experience of causality. (the moving spotlighttheory (of consciousness)). You have access to one puls at a time and you have the 'experience' of a timeline, which you have to conceptualise.
Nope, even just the name "spacetime" explicitly invokes time as part of that continuum. Similarly the mathematics explicitly include it as a dimension. Which again means events can be separated in time just as they can in space.
No the 2D map only shows the spacial locations at a particular time.
You wrote earlier:
I know what I wrote and that 2D map I proposed was spacial.
You don't have access to it, you have to conceptualise this timeline, based on your observations. The timeline does not exist outhere. There is an existence of all things of all times and places together outthere in a timeless mathematical manifold.
Perhaps here is your confusion "all times and places together". Technically the 4D map displays them as not together but separated as different locations in time and/or space. The map simply being displayed all at once doesn't make the events it displays any more simultaneous then it does make them happen at the same spatial location. Again the map explicitly and mathematically distinguish between locations in time (as well as in space).
Not just our experience but the motion and direction of motion itself. That is all past and future are just directions along a temporal axis. Like left and right, up and down or front and back. They are all simply identifiers of ordinal directions along an axis.
This idea of causality (travelling from the past to the future) is only possible because of the existence of observers. In reality, in the block universe, the positions in spacetime (past, present, future) of every bit of information exists together in this (undetectable) timeless block unverse.
We have access to some information from the past, in our present, due to the fact that we are existing observers.
In a block universe, which is reality, all this information, on every moment in time and space and where and when it will be in the future, co-exist.
Where the sound/light wave was, is and shall be co-exist in the block universe. We as observers have only access to where this information from the past is on a particular moment and location.
No, ordering of and separation of locations is again an explicit aspect of the map and the mathematics of the map. You can't assert the existence of the map and or mathematics while denying the explicit ordering and separation of locations that map represents, well, unless you just want to be self-contradictory.
Once again it seems you want to deny just the temporal ordering and positioning represented by the 4d map while maintaining the spatial ordering and positioning. The map and mathematics just treats them all as dimensions. Again that was the point of the 2D spacial map to show you that you are treating spacial dimensions different.
Maartenn100 said:
There is no motion in the actual moment.
Once the actual moment has a duration, it has a past and a possible future. It must be the smallest amount of time possible (Planck time) or zero. I assume, the planck time. But when it has a duration, it actually can be divided in a past and a possible future. So, it must be almost equal to zero.
(I actually don't know that)
Even at zero time it doesn't eliminate "a past and a possible future" or what in geometrical terms would simply be preceding and succeeding locations along that axis.
It supports the idea of a block universe.
Consciousness establishes the experience of causality.
No it doesn't and once again without causality as an aspect a prior of consciousness what you do consciously experience can have no causal relation to reality (block universe or otherwise). Don't forget that consciousness takes time, information only travels so fast. So the temporal limits on becoming aware of some information will far exceeded your "smallest amount of time possible" proposed above. Furthermore some information you simply, and at times deliberately, aren't conscious of, still it has causal affects. Again causality is just a temporal direction, cause preceding effect, mathematically, physically and mechanically it doesn't matter which direction that is, the mathematics, laws and mechanics are time symmetrical. So causality works fines in one direction as it does the other, the simple directional designations (cause and effect) like left and right, front and back or up and down just get reversed.
Heck, even your first quote above asserts such dimensions and directions (what the map and mathematics represent) "exists independent from minds". Your assertions are so convoluted and contrived, without any applicable understanding, to get what you apparently want (an observer created reality) that you can't even just agree with yourself.
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