Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

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Hey HDS sufferers who are convinced that Hillary committed perjury. What is your excuse going to be when the FBI tells the GOP House morons that there was no perjury (assuming the FBI didn't just throw the request in the trash)?

More conspiracy theories? Yeah, that surely will be your response.

Pathetic.
 
Oh really? Pardon her for what? I was under the impression that she hadn't done anything wrong.

And will that be a blanket pardon -- pardoned for any and all crimes she may have committed over the course of her lifetime?

Obama has the authority to pardon her, but he has stipulate what she is being pardoned for. What exactly would that be? Espionage? Gross negligence? Perjury? Racketeering? Bribery?

Wouldn't it be much easier to compile a list of crimes the Clinton's have yet to break, assuming there's any to be found?
It's not without precedent. Ford pardoned Nixon before any charges were brought against him.
 
Second, I doubt Chris Christie could be confirmed as AG. It requires 60 votes and the Republicans won't have that. And I doubt that Democrats would be OK with him being AG given that he's a Trump sycophant, his crazy speech yesterday, and bridgegate.


"How many senators have to vote to approve a nomination?

"A simple majority--that is, one more in favor than opposed. If the Senate, divided along party lines, splits 50-50 on any nomination, the vice president can cast the tie-breaker."

Reference:
Senate Confirmation FAQ

Attorney General Loretta Lynch was confirmed with a vote of 56 to 43.
 
"How many senators have to vote to approve a nomination?

"A simple majority--that is, one more in favor than opposed. If the Senate, divided along party lines, splits 50-50 on any nomination, the vice president can cast the tie-breaker."

Reference:
Senate Confirmation FAQ

Attorney General Loretta Lynch was confirmed with a vote of 56 to 43.
I forgot they got rid of the filibuster for cabinet appointments.

Do you have anything to say about the fact that AG Chris Christie would have to be a complete moron to try to bring Hillary to "justice"? Do you thing he would enjoy being humiliated by losing the case to Hillary? Are you so far gone that you are incapable of understanding that there is no way she would be convicted with James Comey testifying on her behalf?
 
I forgot they got rid of the filibuster for cabinet appointments.

Do you have anything to say about the fact that AG Chris Christie would have to be a complete moron to try to bring Hillary to "justice"? Do you thing he would enjoy being humiliated by losing the case to Hillary? Are you so far gone that you are incapable of understanding that there is no way she would be convicted with James Comey testifying on her behalf?

They're not going after Hillary if Trump's elected. That would an untenable act. Even Trump isn't as stupid as that.
 
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They're not going after Hillary if Trump's elected. That would an untenable act. Even Trump as stupid as he is would not do this.
The only reason they bother pretending that they care about this is because they don't want Hillary to win. If she doesn't win, they will forget about the emails and Benghazi and Hillary altogether.
 
I forgot they got rid of the filibuster for cabinet appointments.

Do you have anything to say about the fact that AG Chris Christie would have to be a complete moron to try to bring Hillary to "justice"? Do you thing he would enjoy being humiliated by losing the case to Hillary? Are you so far gone that you are incapable of understanding that there is no way she would be convicted with James Comey testifying on her behalf?


James Comey's testimony will be devastating for Hillary. He made a very convincing case that she was guilty of "gross negligence." Comey said that despite the overwhelming evidence he personally wouldn't recommend prosecution. But that decision is not up him. It is the Attorney General who makes the decision to indict.

And we haven't even gotten to the Clinton Foundation yet. That's where the real fun begins -- major crimes with the harshest of penalties: U.S. Code 18, Section 794
 
James Comey's testimony will be devastating for Hillary. He made a very convincing case that she was guilty of "gross negligence." Comey said that despite the overwhelming evidence he personally wouldn't recommend prosecution. But that decision is not up him. It is the Attorney General who makes the decision to indict.

And we haven't even gotten to the Clinton Foundation yet. That's where the real fun begins -- major crimes with the harshest of penalties: U.S. Code 18, Section 794

Can anyone say "Delusional"?
 
James Comey's testimony will be devastating for Hillary. He made a very convincing case that she was guilty of "gross negligence." Comey said that despite the overwhelming evidence he personally wouldn't recommend prosecution. But that decision is not up him. It is the Attorney General who makes the decision to indict.

And we haven't even gotten to the Clinton Foundation yet. That's where the real fun begins -- major crimes with the harshest of penalties: U.S. Code 18, Section 794
Yeah him telling the jury that he could not prove a crime, that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges, that he would not prosecute anyone for what Hillary did, that charging Hillary means she is is getting worse treatment than anyone else would, that it is celebrity hunting, ect would de devastating for the defense. LOL

Do you really believe that absolutely insane garbage you type out? I hope so. It is way funnier to me that way.

Oh, and you people have no evidence whatsoever that their charity is anything but a charity. I know, you could not possibly care less about evidence.
 
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The only reason they bother pretending that they care about this is because they don't want Hillary to win. If she doesn't win, they will forget about the emails and Benghazi and Hillary altogether.

Of course. It's a way to demonize Hillary for the campaign. But there are 4 reasons they wouldn't do it.

1. It's absurd and they know it.
2. It smacks of partisan politics
3. The tables could easily be turned and revenge is a dish best served cold.
4. They have to work with the Democrats and this wouldn't 't help.
 
4. They have to work with the Democrats and this wouldn't 't help.


That's the most important point. Several Republican Senators came out today to say much the same thing (in response to one delegate telling a radio host that Clinton should be shot).

It upsets me that Trump has, more than anything, shown people that threats, insults and lies are appropriate in public debate. He's moved the rabid fringe to the middle and every aspect of democracy suffers for it.
 
...He's moved the rabid fringe to the middle and every aspect of democracy suffers for it.

Amen to that!

Tuesday night I saw Congressman Peter King (R-Staten Island) interviewed on PBS at the Convention and he was reasonable and moderate. King was asked, "Could Trump win in his home state since Hillary is also from New York." King said, with a smile, "Well Trump's the real New Yorker," but he went on to say that, "We know that winning New York will be very difficult, but yes I think it's possible." He cautioned though, attacking Clinton won't be enough. That Trump will have to convince New Yorkers that he (Trump) is qualified to serve as President and that he has the policies and programs that will benefit New York the most.

King has been a representative from Staten Island for many years and he worked with Clinton (when she was one of New York's U.S. senators) and he knows Clinton supported and helped get funding for some of the programs King felt were essential to the city and Staten Island. I was glad to hear he spoke decently.

In other words Trump saying he wants to defeat ISIS, restore a safe America and bring the jobs back isn't enough. Anybody can say that, how does Trump propose to do it? When do we get to hear some specifics?
 
Can someone summarize this latest scandal for me, too much to wade through. I heard Scarborough claim it was proof, there was no more doubt, as he blithely ignored the well documented con man, Trump's, history of deceit.

Clinton’s campaign chairman just revealed Hillary lied at her UN press conference

Thanks. The summary need not come from this article.

That article is from May.

What it means is that Hillary lied during her UN press conference, which of course we have known for at least a year.

It has nothing to do with trump, how silly....
 
Can someone summarize this latest scandal for me, too much to wade through. I heard Scarborough claim it was proof, there was no more doubt, as he blithely ignored the well documented con man, Trump's, history of deceit.

Clinton’s campaign chairman just revealed Hillary lied at her UN press conference

Thanks. The summary need not come from this article.
I honestly don't see what the issues is. But then again, I'm not HDS infected.

Seems like the article content is as the website indicates "hotair".
 
I honestly don't see what the issues is. But then again, I'm not HDS infected.

Seems like the article content is as the website indicates "hotair".

It's another Clinton molehill they want turn into a mountain, while studiously ignoring the Everest of Trump's fraud trial.
 
Chris Christie hugged the devil Hillary just a few months ago.

http://www.politico.com/video/2016/...chat-of-her-and-chris-christie-hugging-060010

But yeah, he is going to have her frog marched off to prison.

Slings and Arrows, the Republicans are playing you. They could not possibly care less about Hillary's emails or any of her other "crimes". They are just using it to try to prevent her from being elected. If it works, their reason for pretending that they care about it disappears and they simply forget about it.
 
No, I got the memo and threw it in the garbage.

If the Obama administration doesn't have the fortitude to enforce the law, the Trump administration will. Chris Christie has already begun preparing the indictments that will be brought against Hillary Clinton. Soon after Christie is officially sworn in as the Attorney General, both Hillary and her career criminal husband Bill (The Clinton Foundation), will face a score of indictments.

A true believer, I see.

You're joking right? How about by convincing others to vote for someone other than Trump?

I'm sorry, I had not considered the pie-in-the-sky scenario where you convince the whole country to vote Green, but that's because it won't happen. Aside from voting for Hillary, or convincing a few people to switch over to her, my question stands.
 
No, I got the memo and threw it in the garbage.

If the Obama administration doesn't have the fortitude to enforce the law, the Trump administration will. Chris Christie has already begun preparing the indictments that will be brought against Hillary Clinton. Soon after Christie is officially sworn in as the Attorney General, both Hillary and her career criminal husband Bill (The Clinton Foundation), will face a score of indictments.
I see you're channelling Comical Ali now.
:rolleyes:
 
Regular politicians aren't ensnared in even a small fraction of the number of controversies she has been.

Meaningless. Even most honest politican in world will be "ensnared in so many controversies", if for 30 years his political opponents smeared and made up everything and anything about him.
 
Meaningless. Even most honest politican in world will be "ensnared in so many controversies", if for 30 years his political opponents smeared and made up everything and anything about him.

GOP: *Spends 30 years flinging mud at HRC*
GOP: Look how muddy she is!
 
GOP: *Spends 30 years flinging mud at HRC*
GOP: Look how muddy she is!

This does work to a degree. Part of the electorate are the type of person that shows up for jury duty thinking, "Why would they be on trial if they weren't guilty?" From comes, "Why would they say these things about her if they weren't true?" Of course this has been going on for so long to Hillary that it's not new so that effect is already built into Hillary's numbers for the most part.
 
This does work to a degree. Part of the electorate are the type of person that shows up for jury duty thinking, "Why would they be on trial if they weren't guilty?" From comes, "Why would they say these things about her if they weren't true?" Of course this has been going on for so long to Hillary that it's not new so that effect is already built into Hillary's numbers for the most part.

I think this is accurate - to a point, and that point is the people who already believe these things. If you watched the graphs on woefully biased Fox News' audience sampling, when Christie was going on about putting her in jail, the red bar - the Republican viewers - were all frantically tapping "I agree". The green bar - the Dems, were so against it that you couldn't see the green bar; it was off the bottom of the screen. And the "independents" or yellow bar was somewhere between "Meh?" and "Say What".... a C or D rating on A to F scale.

They're preaching to the choir. They hear it resonating with their fan base and mistake that for overall agreement. This is how they will come to their Karl-Rove-Storming-Into-The-Back-Room election night moment.

This is the week they were supposed to come up with some substance and all they've got is platitudes and pep rallies and have spent more than half their time on the NeverTrump revolt, Melanija's "Baseball Been Bery Good to Me" heartfelt story of arriving at JFK with just two Louis Vuitton bags and down to her last pair of Ferragamos, the plagiary, the cover-up and denial of the plagiary, Cruz's right uppercut to the 'nads, etc....

Donald will do everything. Except he has no plans to do anything other than campaign. If terrorists don't attack someplace by Saturday he has nothing to talk about all next week. He's waiting for things to happen and we've all seen his act and aren't buying it. Any relatively normal Republican, and I know that sounds like an oxymoron, should be leaving this week with a seven point lead. He'll be lucky if it's a draw, and the DNC follows right behind, so his temporary lead will be washed away.

Show of hands: How many are getting their news from news sources? Versus how many are waiting to hear what really went down by watching Colbert and the Daily Show? When your campaign is the entire opening monologue for scathing satirists, you're in deep poop.
 
Is this the first time a Democratic candidate will get a major bump from a Republican convention?
Someone on the news was saying that Hillary should postpone announcing her VP so she doesn't bump Trump's disasterous convention out of the news.
 
Someone on the news was saying that Hillary should postpone announcing her VP so she doesn't bump Trump's disasterous convention out of the news.

The Dems must be sitting around like the cat who swallowed the canary. They really haven't had to do a thing. Trump's favorite cheapskate meme has come back to haunt him. All that free publicity isn't going over so swell when you're busy trying to gnaw your paw off to get out of the traps you've laid for yourself.

Hill and Bill and the other members of the crime family are sitting around with Sonny and Michael wondering when they have to call Lucca Brazzi Carville and they have no need for him.

I'm trying to work up the Stupidity Scorecard but there are so many items/moments to chose from that it's difficult.
 
I think this is accurate - to a point, and that point is the people who already believe these things. If you watched the graphs on woefully biased Fox News' audience sampling, when Christie was going on about putting her in jail, the red bar - the Republican viewers - were all frantically tapping "I agree". The green bar - the Dems, were so against it that you couldn't see the green bar; it was off the bottom of the screen. And the "independents" or yellow bar was somewhere between "Meh?" and "Say What".... a C or D rating on A to F scale.

They're preaching to the choir. They hear it resonating with their fan base and mistake that for overall agreement. This is how they will come to their Karl-Rove-Storming-Into-The-Back-Room election night moment.

This is the week they were supposed to come up with some substance and all they've got is platitudes and pep rallies and have spent more than half their time on the NeverTrump revolt, Melanija's "Baseball Been Bery Good to Me" heartfelt story of arriving at JFK with just two Louis Vuitton bags and down to her last pair of Ferragamos, the plagiary, the cover-up and denial of the plagiary, Cruz's right uppercut to the 'nads, etc....

Donald will do everything. Except he has no plans to do anything other than campaign. If terrorists don't attack someplace by Saturday he has nothing to talk about all next week. He's waiting for things to happen and we've all seen his act and aren't buying it. Any relatively normal Republican, and I know that sounds like an oxymoron, should be leaving this week with a seven point lead. He'll be lucky if it's a draw, and the DNC follows right behind, so his temporary lead will be washed away.

Show of hands: How many are getting their news from news sources? Versus how many are waiting to hear what really went down by watching Colbert and the Daily Show? When your campaign is the entire opening monologue for scathing satirists, you're in deep poop.

I think there are also a group of people - those typically distrustful of the establishment - who are inclined to believe there's something to the slander. "Well, maybe Hillary didn't murder Vince Foster and perhaps her e-mail server was pretty secure and legit... but I wonder if she really has our best interests in mind..."
 
I think there are also a group of people - those typically distrustful of the establishment - who are inclined to believe there's something to the slander. "Well, maybe Hillary didn't murder Vince Foster and perhaps her e-mail server was pretty secure and legit... but I wonder if she really has our best interests in mind..."

Do you actually believe that her email server was pretty secure and legit?
 
Do you actually believe that her email server was pretty secure and legit?

Why not have an investigation?
Get the FBI in on it, see what they fome up with?

If that doesn't wotk do what every tin pot third world dictator does.
Arrest and jail all the political opposition.
 
Do you actually believe that her email server was pretty secure and legit?

I honestly don't give a ****. I wrote that as an example of how someone might reason in response to the allegations. It was not intended as a reflection of my thoughts.

But I see it triggered your "Get Hillary!" reflexes.
 
Is this the first time a Democratic candidate will get a major bump from a Republican convention?

I'm not seeing how any of the internecine strife at the Republican convention hurts Trump with the voters who matter. Ironically, I think it helps Trump. It distracts attention from the fact that he doesn't really have any concrete policies, or at least ones that make sense. The vague prescriptions and platitudes sink into the subconscious of the voter, but there's no analysis of how shallow and empty they are because all of the oxygen is sucked up by these other distractions. In large part, this has been Trump's strategy all along, and it seems to work. I'm not saying that any of this was planned, but I am saying that it probably helps more than it hurts.

If Trump wins this thing (38.6% chance at the moment, according to Nate Silver), it is going to be a crushing humiliation for Hillary. And for Democrats in general. The rebuke will be monumental. That even a bloviating clown, who has, at best, a middle-school level grasp of the structure of the federal government, and running on a shoestring budget, can beat the power duo of Hillary and Bill, the vaunted Democratic machine, and even the mainstream media (but I repeat myself), would be a testament to how thoroughly the people despise the political elite.
 
I honestly don't give a ****. I wrote that as an example of how someone might reason in response to the allegations. It was not intended as a reflection of my thoughts.

But I see it triggered your "Get Hillary!" reflexes.

I'll take your answer as a "No, I screwed up, but I'm not going to admit it because it's less humiliating to attack the person who points out my mistake."
 
Why not have an investigation?
Get the FBI in on it, see what they fome up with?

There was an investigation. Two, in fact, if you include the IG of the State Department. Both investigations concluded that the email server was not secure and not legit.

If that doesn't wotk do what every tin pot third world dictator does.
Arrest and jail all the political opposition.

Huh?
 
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