Kyoon's Theories Regarding the Illuminati and Other Subjects: Part II

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Kyoon said:
Not a lie, unless you can provide a quote where I stated "the clones and progeny of a catastrophic failure tried to destroy them".


That isn't the same claim as I just explained.
As you correctly pointed out, the illuminati icon Hitler failed previously to complete their agendas. The motivation for Hitler's descendants now on the stage is part of the resuscitate Hitler agenda wile formally turning that defeat into an illuminati "victory".
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Hail Hydra. Or something....
 
Kyoon said:
Any logical answers?
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Certainly. The logical answer is the simple one: that the Illuminati are a fantasy and Matt Marriott's nebulous predictions are just made-up nonsense.

But where's the fun in that? Much more entertaining to claim a bunch of nonsense will occur (though when we say 'occur' you need to soft-pedal that a bit since it's probably only in a very loose and vaguely symbolic sort of way and quite likely it'll only happen retrospectively so not even necessarily during the lifetime of any of the protagonists mentioned and maybe not even then since you can always say the baddies' plans changed).
 
Was Napoleon an illuminati icon too? Just curious.

If he was, I might have supplementary questions about which then-famous actors were his secret children or clones.
 
Kyoon said:
The motivation for Hitler's descendants now on the stage is part of the resuscitate Hitler agenda wile formally turning that defeat into an illuminati "victory".
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See, answering my question wasn't that hard. Why did you prevaricate and dodge so much before giving me your explanation?

Now, what evidence do you have that these people are actually related? You've posted pictures where you insist you see a family resemblance, but have failed to so much as describe any actual features you see in common. Your entire argument seems to rest upon the fact that they kinda-sorta look related to you.

What actual evidence do you have that Sir Patrick Stewart is related to Adolf Hitler?
 
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Nay_Sayer said:
He was the 5th incarnation of Hitler, Everyone is Hitler, Even Hitler was Hitler!
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Maybe you're right. Maybe everyone is a clone of Hitler.

After all, Kyoon insists there's a family resemblance between a group of men who really don't look related at all so perhaps the Illuminati invented a special method of cloning which produces exact copies of Hitler except for the cunning twist of making them look nothing much like Hitler.

I wonder when they developed this technology. Must have been in the pre-Napoleonic era if Napoleon was also a Hitler, in which case their tech must be so far in advance of normal humans that I can't understand why they haven't taken over the world yet. Unless they didn't have the tech back then but they have a time machine. That might explain it.

But if they have a time machine why wouldn't they all just pop off to the glorious future where they rule the world after having removed the final stumbling block of disarming the US's civilians? It's so confusing.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Maybe you're right. Maybe everyone is a clone of Hitler.

After all, Kyoon insists there's a family resemblance between a group of men who really don't look related at all so perhaps the Illuminati invented a special method of cloning which produces exact copies of Hitler except for the cunning twist of making them look nothing much like Hitler.

I wonder when they developed this technology. Must have been in the pre-Napoleonic era if Napoleon was also a Hitler, in which case their tech must be so far in advance of normal humans that I can't understand why they haven't taken over the world yet. Unless they didn't have the tech back then but they have a time machine. That might explain it.

But if they have a time machine why wouldn't they all just pop off to the glorious future where they rule the world after having removed the final stumbling block of disarming the US's civilians? It's so confusing.
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Suddenly it all makes sense.

They're all clones of Napoleon.

This has been going on longer than we thought!
 
halleyscomet said:
Suddenly it all makes sense.

They're all clones of Napoleon.

This has been going on longer than we thought!
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It probably goes back to Caesar and probably back to Judas....my putting it down here will cause Kyoon to incorporate this crazy idea into his fantastical made up world view.
 
This reminds me of a fake CT I thought of years ago. I noticed that Mick Jagger, Steve Tyler, and several other rock band front men shared certain physical characteristics, tallish, skinny, and rather, shall we say "angular" faces.
Obviously this was evidence of a vast cloning project by the Illogimattii to grab money from the world's youth while corrupting their minds, getting them hooked on drugs, etc.

Note to Kyoon and Matt Marriot, this one belongs to me, no copying!
 
Let's look at the numbers:

JFK Assassination: 11.22.63

6+3=9, 22 is 11x2, therefore 11.22.63 = 9-11 but twice as bad because of reasons.

11 = Brew Bledsoe's jersey number. 22 = Andrew McCutchen's jersey number, 63 = Isiah Thomas's jersey number...fact: NONE OF THESE GUYS PLAYS SOCCER. Coincidence? I think not.

Clearly seemingly random crap has significant meaning if you look hard enough.:thumbsup:
 
If Kyoon's prediction (or it might be Matt Marriott's prediction) is that Hillary Clinton will be the last president of the USA, we do at last have something falsifiable. As soon as a president is elected to follow Clinton after her second term (or her first term if she doesn't stand for a second term), then BOOM, Kyoon and/or Matt Marriott are wrong, their eggs are addled and their fish uncaught.

The idea that President Obama will be arrested for anything to do with his presidency will end with his death, so again is falsifiable but not for many years. The even more ridiculous notion that he would be erased from the history books will never happen, but it's not easily falsifiable even after a century or more.
 
Agatha said:
If Kyoon's prediction (or it might be Matt Marriott's prediction) is that Hillary Clinton will be the last president of the USA, we do at last have something falsifiable. As soon as a president is elected to follow Clinton after her second term (or her first term if she doesn't stand for a second term), then BOOM, Kyoon and/or Matt Marriott are wrong, their eggs are addled and their fish uncaught.

The idea that President Obama will be arrested for anything to do with his presidency will end with his death, so again is falsifiable but not for many years. The even more ridiculous notion that he would be erased from the history books will never happen, but it's not easily falsifiable even after a century or more.
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Even then, not necessarily; kyoon's built in an automatic waffle-factor with "changing scripts" and "symbolic rather than literal language." Since he's the one in charge of deciding when to apply these factors to his own predictions, even he can't actually falsify them.
 
Axxman300 said:
Let's look at the numbers:

JFK Assassination: 11.22.63

6+3=9, 22 is 11x2, therefore 11.22.63 = 9-11 but twice as bad because of reasons.

11 = Brew Bledsoe's jersey number. 22 = Andrew McCutchen's jersey number, 63 = Isiah Thomas's jersey number...fact: NONE OF THESE GUYS PLAYS SOCCER. Coincidence? I think not.

Clearly seemingly random crap has significant meaning if you look hard enough.:thumbsup:
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With the added benefit that many people, myself among them, couldn't give a #### if you reported that part correctly and would never fact check it.:D
 
turingtest said:
Even then, not necessarily; kyoon's built in an automatic waffle-factor with "changing scripts" and "symbolic rather than literal language." Since he's the one in charge of deciding when to apply these factors to his own predictions, even he can't actually falsify them.
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Yeah, Paul Bethke has already failed spectacularly. Postponement = script change = pathetic weaseling.
 
The Man said:
Six degrees of Hitler, everybody knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody who knows a clone of Hitler.
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Where are the clones? There ought to be clones.

Actually, what's kind of scary is that I knew at least one person who knew a person who knew the real Hitler. Add another degree or two, and it would be a whole handful.
 
turingtest said:
Even then, not necessarily; kyoon's built in an automatic waffle-factor with "changing scripts" and "symbolic rather than literal language." Since he's the one in charge of deciding when to apply these factors to his own predictions, even he can't actually falsify them.
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Exactly. His wide-open 'predictions' could be satisfied thousands of years from now by people in the distant future re-writing history books to say Hillary was the final president of the USA.
 
halleyscomet said:
Suddenly it all makes sense.

They're all clones of Napoleon.

This has been going on longer than we thought!
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Consider the stereotypical lunatic asylum patients who firmly believe they're Napoleon. Their mania is a flaw in the cloning process, but the seeming identity confusion is not part of their illness: they actually are Napoleon.

Or Hitler. Both, really.

However, I understand that the number of people in mental institutions claiming to be Napoleon has diminished over the decades, which may indicate that the cloning process has steadily improved. Indeed I gather mental institutions are instead now overwhelmed by an influx of inmates who insist most urgently that they have been sent back from the future to prevent Trump getting elected. That probably belongs in a different thread, though. :)
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Consider the stereotypical lunatic asylum patients who firmly believe they're Napoleon. Their mania is a flaw in the cloning process, but the seeming identity confusion is not part of their illness: they actually are Napoleon.

Or Hitler. Both, really.

However, I understand that the number of people in mental institutions claiming to be Napoleon has diminished over the decades, which may indicate that the cloning process has steadily improved. Indeed I gather mental institutions are instead now overwhelmed by an influx of inmates who insist most urgently that they have been sent back from the future to prevent Trump getting elected. That probably belongs in a different thread, though. :)
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bruto said:
Where are the clones? There ought to be clones.

Actually, what's kind of scary is that I knew at least one person who knew a person who knew the real Hitler. Add another degree or two, and it would be a whole handful.
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"Send in the Clones" Sung to the tune of "Send in the Clowns" by Frank Sinatra

Where is the Reich, Isn’t it here
Mien Kompf at last on the ground and in mid-air
Send in the clones

Isn't it bliss? Don't you approve?
One who keeps FEMA camps so you can’t even move?
But where are the clones? There ought to be clones

Just when I stopped killing by scores
Finally finding the life to take was actually yours
Making my entrance again with my usual fail

Postponing time lines
like chasing my tail

Don't you love a farce? My fault, I fear
I thought that you'd want what I want, sorry my dear
But where are the clones? Send in the clones
Don't bother they're here

Isn't it rich? Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career
But where are the clones? There ought to be clones
Well, maybe next year










The last couple stanzas work well with little change.
 
There's one conspiracy theory that's been looming in this thread like an elephant in the corner. Nobody has mentioned it yet, but I can't let it rest any longer.

I'm speaking, of course, of the fact that there's just as much evidence supporting the Hitler / Stewart connection as their is that Kyoon is actually a quasi-sentient typing raccoon.

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I know, I know, it's been a long time since we discussed this, but the issue has never been satisfactorily addressed.

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If a Star Trek actor can be a secret descendant of Hitler who is secretly ruling the world through a network of Illuminati agents, none of whom actually know he's in charge, then the exact same standard of evidence proves Kyoon is a quasi-sentient typing raccoon.

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Agatha said:
If Kyoon's prediction (or it might be Matt Marriott's prediction) is that Hillary Clinton will be the last president of the USA, we do at last have something falsifiable.
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Ever since the script had to be changed to have "president Obama impeached and stripped " instead of "senator Obama" it no longer matters if "Hitlery wins the election", since she will complete the script line "Hillary fulfills BushClinton since 1988", ensured through "Obama stripped".

Kaine may replace Clinton to play "real BIG BANG Truman"
Kaine's current role as future Himmler can eventually turn into a parallel reverse script to (NO true man) Truman (KEIN wahrer Mann) 1945:
The invisible vice months later "unexpectedly" becomes 33th (Kaine 45th) president.
Both Truman and his BIG BANG were fake: NO nukes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, "just" huge conventional bombs.
On the other hand Kaine is casted in the real BIG BANG, where obviously there are also NO nukes in script.

Reminder:
- the only nukes in the unfolding "End of USA" and coming "BIG BANG" scripts were detonated long ago: 9/11 2001, at the basement of the "WTC towers impacted by airliners";
- in any case Hitlery Clinton will be proclaimed the real 44th president, successor of GW Bush, after "Obama arrested" and stripped.
 
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No need to mention today's headlines fulfill "Obama and Osama, the real ISIS leaders" prophecy's core.

Aug 11, 2016 - Fulfilled as: "Trump accuses Obama of being the 'founder of ISIS'".
 
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Kyoon said:
No need to mention today's headlines fulfill "Obama and Osama, the real ISIS leaders" prophecy's core.

Aug 11, 2016 - Fulfilled as: "Trump accuses Obama of being the 'founder of ISIS'".
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You're going to take some mud-flinging by Trump as "fulfillment" of your claim that Obama is actually a leader of ISIS? Wow. You set the evidence bar pretty low, don't you?
 
Kyoon said:
Ever since the script had to be changed to have "president Obama impeached and stripped " instead of "senator Obama" it no longer matters if "Hitlery wins the election", since she will complete the script line "Hillary fulfills BushClinton since 1988", ensured through "Obama stripped".

Kaine may replace Clinton to play "real BIG BANG Truman"
Kaine's current role as future Himmler can eventually turn into a parallel reverse script to (NO true man) Truman (KEIN wahrer Mann) 1945:
The invisible vice months later "unexpectedly" becomes 33th (Kaine 45th) president.
Both Truman and his BIG BANG were fake: NO nukes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, "just" huge conventional bombs.
On the other hand Kaine is casted in the real BIG BANG, where obviously there are also NO nukes in script.

Reminder:
- the only nukes in the unfolding "End of USA" and coming "BIG BANG" scripts were detonated long ago: 9/11 2001, at the basement of the "WTC towers impacted by airliners";
- in any case Hitlery Clinton will be proclaimed the real 44th president, successor of GW Bush, after "Obama arrested" and stripped.
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My my.... The logical contortions you need to perform to retrofit a bunch of nebulous claims from April into a set of events in August...

Let me count the ways:
  1. 12 sets of quotes around various words and phrases
  2. 2 outright lies contradicted by the utter lack of evidence in support, and the huge amount of evidence against
  3. The need to claim a couple of reversals in order to fit the predicted events into the reality where the prediction did not come to pass

On the basis of your "predictive" methods, I can predict anything at all and "prove" it to be the script of the Oompa Loompas! Nice one, Eric.
 
Kyoon said:
Ever since the script had to be changed to have "president Obama impeached and stripped " instead of "senator Obama" it no longer matters if "Hitlery wins the election", since she will complete the script line "Hillary fulfills BushClinton since 1988", ensured through "Obama stripped".

Kaine may replace Clinton to play "real BIG BANG Truman"
Kaine's current role as future Himmler can eventually turn into a parallel reverse script to (NO true man) Truman (KEIN wahrer Mann) 1945:
The invisible vice months later "unexpectedly" becomes 33th (Kaine 45th) president.
Both Truman and his BIG BANG were fake: NO nukes at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, "just" huge conventional bombs.
On the other hand Kaine is casted in the real BIG BANG, where obviously there are also NO nukes in script.

Reminder:
- the only nukes in the unfolding "End of USA" and coming "BIG BANG" scripts were detonated long ago: 9/11 2001, at the basement of the "WTC towers impacted by airliners";
- in any case Hitlery Clinton will be proclaimed the real 44th president, successor of GW Bush, after "Obama arrested" and stripped.
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Well, you can't falsify gibberish, can you?
 
Kyoon said:
No need to mention today's headlines fulfill "Obama and Osama, the real ISIS leaders" prophecy's core.

Aug 11, 2016 - Fulfilled as: "Trump accuses Obama of being the 'founder of ISIS'".
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You really do live in a self contained continuity bubble.

So I ask, why bother here? How can you be sure we are not all just computer generated programs designed to imitate a skeptic forum just to lure you in and find out what you know? Or does the rabbit hole not go that far?
 
Kyoon said:
No need to mention today's headlines fulfill "Obama and Osama, the real ISIS leaders" prophecy's core.

Aug 11, 2016 - Fulfilled as: "Trump accuses Obama of being the 'founder of ISIS'".
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Forgive me if I misunderstand, but are you saying you share Trump's lunatic assumption? There are, of course, some among us who believe Mr. Trump is a consummate bottom-feeding slimeball, and feeding from the same trough might not endear you to all.
 
Kyoon said:
No need to mention today's headlines fulfill "Obama and Osama, the real ISIS leaders" prophecy's core.

Aug 11, 2016 - Fulfilled as: "Trump accuses Obama of being the 'founder of ISIS'".
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But Trump is incorrect ISIS existed before Obama was president.
 
bruto said:
Forgive me if I misunderstand, but are you saying you share Trump's lunatic assumption?
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Answered in original prediction 04-17-2016 11:45 AM:
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In other words: headlines will be "Obama and Osama ARE the real ISIS leaders".
[url]https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-645515.html[/url]
BEFORE the core of the prophecy was fulfilled 08-11-2016 with Trump's words.
 
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Kyoon said:
Answered in original prediction 04-17-2016 11:45 AM:
Code: 
In other words: headlines will be "Obama and Osama ARE the real ISIS leaders".
[url]https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-645515.html[/url]
BEFORE the core of the prophecy was fulfilled 08-11-2016 with Trump's words.
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So let me get this right:

A "prediction" about Obama being the "real ISIS leader" was made in April 2016.

Perhaps because Trump had previously said it in January 2016, hmmm?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-hillary-clinton-created-isis/

Or previously in 2013?
http://www.wral.com/wral-tv/video/15920633/

Or how about 2011???
 
Kyoon said:
Answered in original prediction 04-17-2016 11:45 AM:
Code: 
In other words: headlines will be "Obama and Osama ARE the real ISIS leaders".
[url]https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-645515.html[/url]
BEFORE the core of the prophecy was fulfilled 08-11-2016 with Trump's words.
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sorry, but that does not actually answer my question. I looked at the link provided but the language was such a mishmash of nonsense and equivocation that I truly cannot discern whether Mr. Marriott believes that the supposed headlines are true or false. In typical fashion here, the language teeters so closely to the brink of utter unintelligibility that it could be seen after the fact to say either of two opposite things. Rather than linking to what has been said by others, how about answering questions about what you yourself think?

The questions are really pretty simple:

Do you share Mr. Trump's contention that Obama and Clinton are the creators or masters of ISIS?

Do you believe that the headline prophesied is a statement of truth, or a lie?

Surely you can answer easy questions like this without having to link to anyone else's utterances.
 
Kid Eager said:


So let me get this right:

A "prediction" about Obama being the "real ISIS leader" was made in April 2016.

Perhaps because Trump had previously said it in January 2016, hmmm?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/02/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-hillary-clinton-created-isis/

Or previously in 2013?
http://www.wral.com/wral-tv/video/15920633/

Or how about 2011???
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I find it odd that all these predictions are being brought to our attention after the predicted event.
 
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