Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

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The Big Dog said:
Well, considering the you unilaterally declared certain evidence non-substantive, it is a bit silly, huh?

Skeptic: the emails show that in private Hillary unabashedly sucked up to Wall Street while claiming that she was going to crack down on Wall Street.

Head in sand response: I said not mention how she panders to groups! Thus No Evidence.

'k.
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This thread is about Hilary Clinton being "done (for)". The performance of her only (for want of a better word) "credible" opponent is key to this.

She has flaws, many of which have been investigated for the last 25-years. Her flaws are significantly less important than Trump's and the opinion polls suggest that most of the US public agree.

At least one journalist is saying that the two worst stories about Trump haven't yet hit.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, considering the you unilaterally declared certain evidence non-substantive, it is a bit silly, huh?
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If I ask for evidence of bigfoot that doesn't consist of just hearsay and unsubstantiated eye witness accounts is that unilaterally declaring certain evidence non-substantive or just setting expectations?

If you want to post about her pant suits that's fine, slings will likely help out. Maybe make some fat jokes and photoshop some pictures for you. All good. Just not all that substantive.

Skeptic: the emails show that in private Hillary unabashedly sucked up to Wall Street while claiming that she was going to crack down on Wall Street.
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If that is there let's see it. What I've seen so far isn't nearly that clear, but maybe you can sway me.
 
Dr. Keith said:
If that is there let's see it. What I've seen so far isn't nearly that clear, but maybe you can sway me.
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That email has been linked and addressed for the last week in this thread. I am a bit amazed that you appear to be claiming you are unfamiliar with it.
 
The Big Dog said:
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That email has been linked and addressed for the last week in this thread. I am a bit amazed that you appear to be claiming you are unfamiliar with it.
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I don't click on every link in every thread. Care to give the money quote? The one sentence that will make everyone rethink if this person could ever be qualified to be president. You know, something that will grab me by the pussy.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, considering the you unilaterally declared certain evidence non-substantive, it is a bit silly, huh?

Skeptic: the emails show that in private Hillary unabashedly sucked up to Wall Street while claiming that she was going to crack down on Wall Street.

Head in sand response: I said not mention how she panders to groups! Thus No Evidence.

'k.
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Most often when you say "evidence" you're referring to innuendo. They're not the same thing. There's no evidence that Clinton actually did anything much wrong. At the end of the day, the standard GOP smear tactics will fail -- and the day is ending pretty soon now.

Of course Clinton has her battle scars -- she's been under the microscope as a working politician for many years. During those years, Trump was mostly humored as a clown. We'll be seeing the difference this makes in due course.
 
eerok said:
Of course Clinton has her battle scars -- she's been under the microscope as a working politician for many years. .
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Sorry, Clinton has been under far more than the microscope as a working politician.

She has been the direct target of the right wing for almost 25 years. They have been going at her as hard as they can, reaching for everything. She hasn't gotten the politician treatment. She has gotten the Satanist treatment.

That she is still viable shows how strong she is. A lesser person (coughTrumpcough) would have melted decades ago.

Look at Trump now - he gets a little heat and he melts like a gummy in the pizza oven. But this is the kind of scrutiny that Clinton has put up with for 20 years.
 
Religious Leaders slam Clinton over email
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politi...hillary-clinton-campaign-wikileaks/index.html

Catholic and evangelical groups slammed Hillary Clinton's campaign in a statement Thursday over comments revealed in the WikiLeaks emails hack between two high-level campaign officials.

Dozens of religious leaders who signed the statement expressed their "outrage at the demeaning and troubling rhetoric used by those within Secretary Clinton's campaign."

The statement is referring to a 2011 email between campaign chairman John Podesta, whose email was hacked, and communications director Jennifer Palmieri and John Halpin, a senior fellow at the liberal think tank Center for American Progress.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Religious Leaders slam Clinton over email
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politi...hillary-clinton-campaign-wikileaks/index.html

Catholic and evangelical groups slammed Hillary Clinton's campaign in a statement Thursday over comments revealed in the WikiLeaks emails hack between two high-level campaign officials.
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Looks like bollocks to me.

In the email, Halpin writes that 21st Century Fox Chairman Rupert Murdoch and NewsCorp Chairman Robert Thomson, who are both Catholic, are attracted to the faith because of "systemic thought and severely backward gender relations."


Palmieri responded: "I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable, politically conservative religion -- their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelical."
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Halpin and Palmieri, not Clinton, and it's about Murdoch (a lowlife sleazebag) and Robert Thompson, not the Catholic faith or evangelism. Remember, Murdoch changed his nationality for business reasons. There's no reason to think he doesn't choose his purported faith according to a similar calculation.

Fake outrage and no story. Moving right along ...
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Dozens of religious leaders who signed the statement expressed their "outrage at the demeaning and troubling rhetoric used by those within Secretary Clinton's campaign."
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Let me get this straight... these bible thumpers are outraged at the demeaning rhetoric coming from... Clinton??

This is satire, right?
 
jimbob said:
This thread is about Hilary Clinton being "done (for)". The performance of her only (for want of a better word) "credible" opponent is key to this.

She has flaws, many of which have been investigated for the last 25-years. Her flaws are significantly less important than Trump's and the opinion polls suggest that most of the US public agree.

At least one journalist is saying that the two worst stories about Trump haven't yet hit.
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The guy is a known horndog, I'm sure there is tape out there as bad or worse than pussygate. It's just a matter of timing, what release date would provide the maximum effect.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't click on every link in every thread. Care to give the money quote? The one sentence that will make everyone rethink if this person could ever be qualified to be president. You know, something that will grab me by the pussy.
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This.
 
Oh the irony, I think it's maybe the best irony ever, incredible irony:

Heard a Trump supporter on CNN proclaim that she was for the man who likes women, not the one that cheated on them.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Religious Leaders slam Clinton over email
http://us.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politi...hillary-clinton-campaign-wikileaks/index.html

Catholic and evangelical groups slammed Hillary Clinton's campaign in a statement Thursday over comments revealed in the WikiLeaks emails hack between two high-level campaign officials.

Dozens of religious leaders who signed the statement expressed their "outrage at the demeaning and troubling rhetoric used by those within Secretary Clinton's campaign."

The statement is referring to a 2011 email between campaign chairman John Podesta, whose email was hacked, and communications director Jennifer Palmieri and John Halpin, a senior fellow at the liberal think tank Center for American Progress.
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Meh. Not Clinton and overblown.
 
CapelDodger said:
Those Catholic religious leaders expressing outrage might be worth a close look.
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Alex-St. James is a failed seminarian who "is leading the way to break the leftist liberal control of Black Americans". He's also a Republican political candidate and fan of Reaganomics.
Andrea Lafferty is a director of the "Traditional Values Coalition" andanti-gay hate group that disseminates "known falsehoods — claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities — and repeated, groundless name-calling."
Andresen Blom works for the "Center for Civic Virtue" and is another roght-wing Republican who dabbled in Hawaiian historical revisionism (i.e. denying US abuses) and opposing SSM.
Bill Millis was a supporter of Ben Carson and is another right-wing Republican.
Charles Mifsud is on the RNC and was previously linked to political corruption (donations allegedly bought millions of dollars of government legal business).
Dallas Eggemeyer is a conservative xian minister and member of the American Association of Christian Counselors, who pushed gay conversion therapies.
Keith Fournier is a member of the Trump campaign. He previously expressed outrage when AP pointed out that Mat Staver was the head of an anti-gay hate group.
Donn S. Chapman is a televangalist, megachurch pastor, creationist and anti-abortion nut with a history of abusing women seeking terminations at "sidewalk protests".

That's enough. The usual collection of right-wing nuts and scum.


ETA: none of them count as "Catholic leaders" in either the ecclesiastical or lay sense.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh dear.... You see there has been fulsome evidence of her conduct and lies, and you have chosen not to accept it, which is fine, I mean no one is forcing you to, but the whole denial of the existence of evidence is indeed very trutheresque.
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What does this have to do with my post? In fact, what does the post that it was responding to had to do with the post that it was responding to?

Are you even reading my posts before responding?
 
catsmate said:
Alex-St. James is a failed seminarian who "is leading the way to break the leftist liberal control of Black Americans". He's also a Republican political candidate and fan of Reaganomics.
Andrea Lafferty is a director of the "Traditional Values Coalition" andanti-gay hate group that disseminates "known falsehoods — claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities — and repeated, groundless name-calling."
Andresen Blom works for the "Center for Civic Virtue" and is another roght-wing Republican who dabbled in Hawaiian historical revisionism (i.e. denying US abuses) and opposing SSM.
Bill Millis was a supporter of Ben Carson and is another right-wing Republican.
Charles Mifsud is on the RNC and was previously linked to political corruption (donations allegedly bought millions of dollars of government legal business).
Dallas Eggemeyer is a conservative xian minister and member of the American Association of Christian Counselors, who pushed gay conversion therapies.
Keith Fournier is a member of the Trump campaign. He previously expressed outrage when AP pointed out that Mat Staver was the head of an anti-gay hate group.
Donn S. Chapman is a televangalist, megachurch pastor, creationist and anti-abortion nut with a history of abusing women seeking terminations at "sidewalk protests".

That's enough. The usual collection of right-wing nuts and scum.


ETA: none of them count as "Catholic leaders" in either the ecclesiastical or lay sense.
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Thanks muchly. Damn, I love this forum. :)
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh dear.... You see there has been fulsome evidence of her conduct and lies, and you have chosen not to accept it, which is fine, I mean no one is forcing you to, but the whole denial of the existence of evidence is indeed very trutheresque.
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catsmate said:
You appear to be mixing up your imagination with the Real World again.
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I chuckled at the fact that you deleted part of my post about denying the existence of evidence and then denied the existence of evidence.:thumbsup:

by the way, are you familiar with the multiquote function? it allows you to respond to numerous posts in a single reply! check it out
 
catsmate said:
Thanks :o.

That was just a sample. I couldn't be buggered to track down all 82 of the idiots.
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Oh well I have some time, so here are a few more. Precious few are even Catholics.


William A. Estrada, Esq.
Homeschooling proponent and opponent of Common Core. Lawyer, lobbyist and advocate for Generation Joshua (a right-wing Catholic political organisation). Actually a Catholic.

Tim Wildmon.
Son of Donald (Wildmon, not Trump) and president of the American Family Association. Blames the Sandy Hook massacre on satan.

Terry Beatley.
Republican actist and anti-abortion nut. Promotes lies about Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger’s plans "to sterilize and purge those of African origins from the face of the earth".

Ted Baehr
The nutter behind Movieguide, "The Family & Christian Guide to Movie Reviews". He has a RW page. Doesn't like Clint Eastwood or Harry Potter.

Sue Means
Republican candidate in Pennsylvania, advocate of "clean coal". Doubts AGW. Wants to outlaw abortion in the state.

Steve Reiter
Republican politician. Opposes abortion and has promulgated a number of lies about the Clinton campaign

Steve Mosher
President of the Population Research Institute, AGW denier and anti-abortion nut.

Sealy Yates
Lawyer and evangelical, formerly supported Ben Carson. Has refused to comment on recent Trump revelations despite being on the Trump Evangelical Advisory Committee (this email must be more important than women being molested :rolleyes:). Anti-gay rights nut.

Sandy Rios
American Family Association director of governmental affairs; radio host on American Family Radio. Former president of Concerned Women for America.
Blames gays for terrorism, train crashes and more; promotes anti-gay therapy and accuses gays of being child predators.

Sam Casey
Republican and lawyer to several conservative groups. Tea Party affiliate.

Ronnie Floyd
Southern Baptist Convention President. Opposes gay and trans rights.

Robert Morris
Gateway Church Pastor. Claims the USA is in a porn epidemic.

Peter Hwang
Baptist pastor. Trump supporter.

Robert Jeffress
Baptist pastor. Trump supporter. Called xians who don't support Trump "weak" and "namby-pamby".

So far not one Democrat, precious few actual Catholics and numerous Trumpettes.
 
Argumemnon said:
Still waiting for said evidence. A link to it will do, if you don't feel like typing it again.
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I've been asking for weeks, all I get is assurances that he's already posted it. I'm reminded of the shroud of Turin thread.
 
catsmate said:
ETA: none of them count as "Catholic leaders" in either the ecclesiastical or lay sense.
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Thanks for the research, I had guessed it would be something like that, but was too lazy to fact check.

It is the usual posturing.

How the heck are American enduring that load of ******** without taking torch and pitchfork to washington surprises me.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I don't click on every link in every thread. Care to give the money quote? The one sentence that will make everyone rethink if this person could ever be qualified to be president. You know, something that will grab me by the pussy.
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TheL8Elvis said:
This.
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Argumemnon said:
Still waiting for said evidence. A link to it will do, if you don't feel like typing it again.
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catsmate said:
I've been asking for weeks, all I get is assurances that he's already posted it. I'm reminded of the shroud of Turin thread.
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Still waiting.
 
These outraged Catholic leaders - I think it's safe to say they were happy with Trump calling Pope Francis "disgraceful". Of course, that was months ago and Trump has matured a lot since then ...
 
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