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6th January 2017, 01:26 PM | #41 |
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Oh boy, this Peter Caine guy is great.
Sasquatch Dens in Beaver dam State Park https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3x4yU8Us8E |
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6th January 2017, 02:03 PM | #44 |
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If you watch his videos, you can tell he's doing a comedy routine. Making fun of Bigfooters. It's really hilarious.
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My favorite.
NSFA I wonder if we can get DWA to fall for this? |
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6th January 2017, 04:14 PM | #46 |
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Agreed - he stays in character at least as well as Stephen Colbert and he's intentionally pronouncing sasquatch the way Moneymaker does. This guy is good.
I think that video of the mama sasquatch and her cub is legit, but why does she live in his bathroom? ETA: I had to look up his exact location 'cause I've been through Beaver Dams a couple of times. He's on the county road (off the state highway) though, so I've been close but not quite past his house. That's Coon Hollow State Forest behind him in the videos, so I guess that's where all the bigfoots come from. I wonder if they sit up on the hills to watch the racing at Watkins Glen? |
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This one looks just like that stupid Matilda footie from the Erickson project nonsense. The footers are gathering up the torches for this guy. |
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For reference.
The Face of Matilda The Sleeping Bigfoot The best bigfoot evidence is indistinguishable from a hoax. |
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The resemblance to Matilda is enough to make me wonder about a connection.
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If I've told Bigfoot once I've told him a million times, stay away from freezers! It's a lesson he should've learned from the Rick Dyer Incident™. Dyer's part of a little known consortium called Big Freeze and they're very serious about freezing. So serious they're freezing their asses off.
Going way back, they're the faceless organization responsible for the "Plus FREE FREEZER!" exclamations in my favorite old "Joe's Credit Beef - Call For Cutting Times" commercials. You can't make this stuff up. |
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7th January 2017, 05:46 AM | #51 |
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He is funny, and much more so if you pay attention to Bigfootery. There is so much to like with all of his videos. He has a charming habit of calling out Bigfooters as a-holes. ROFL!
His videos don't really have many views. They also can't get much mainstream promotion because they are too vulgar. |
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7th January 2017, 11:58 AM | #53 |
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If I recall correctly we dug a copy up a while back. The gist was that you were not allowed to say anything except what was released in writing by the hoax organizer.
In terms of why play this game - it is the same game a 12 year old girl plays when she says to a friend "you should have heard what Sally said about you..." Baiting people. Look at me - I know something you don't know and hide it from you while you try to look at it... The one thing you can know about a person who does this is that it isn't some isolated thing where they act normally all day long except when they are BLAARGing. Can you imagine working with a person like this or having to serve with them on a committee? |
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Just caught ten minutes of something called 'Alaska Monsters'
It seemed to involve a gang of men looking like spec ops in combat gear armed with rifles and shotguns wandering around in a dark forest. Their leader looks like Grizzly Adams grandad with a huge white beard. They were claiming to be surrounded by a whole clan of Bigfoots led by an 'Alpha Clan Leader' they called 'Red Devil'. Lots of whooping and growling 'Ape noises' in the darkness and sound of tree trunks being pounded. It was filmed in green light, I assume to mimic a night scope of some kind. They were shouting in a panicked way about 'incoming' and the Devils were 'in the trees throwing rocks at them and that they were surrounded. Lots of crouching, aiming guns and one of them starts shooting randomly in to the trees with his pump shotgun and then some of the others had a shoot as well. Next morning there was no sign of any 'creature'. They set up a 'bed of nails' trap that looked lethal to any thing or anyone stepping in it and that's where I stopped watching, it was time for the pub. It all looks great fun. |
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Another example footers doing the opposite of what actual researchers do.
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/...iences/&page=5
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And in comparison to this a new species of gibbon has been found. From the link:-
"It's difficult to get into the reserve. You have to hike up to above 2,500m to find the gibbons. That's where the good quality forest usually starts - everywhere below there has been logged." "Then you have to wake up really early in the morning and you listen out for the haunting song of the gibbons, which carries in the forest canopy." "And when you hear it, you rush through the mud and the mist, and run for hundreds of metres to try and catch up with these gibbons." Bit different eh? |
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11th January 2017, 04:33 AM | #64 |
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Thank you. Comments on it to come later.
As I have signed no NDA nor made any express or implied statements in regard to revealing the NDA itself, I may post the text in this thread to make commenting easier. I'll let you have an opportunity first, though, to object if you like and perhaps convince me otherwise. |
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NDA Text:
If you tell anyone about the location of the State owned land, which we have decided is our own personal Bigfoot hunting ground, we will sue you. SUMMATION OF POTENTIAL DAMAGES We are planning to find a Bigfoot at this location, and if you give away the location, hundreds of Footers will show up, ruining it for us. This is potentially MILLIONS of dollars of revenue that we would be losing if you give this info away. |
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Not really, because a judge is going to ask them to prove damages.
It's the same as a non-compete agreement. The plaintiff would have to show that the former employee is actually causing them to lose business, or compete with them. Except the judge would be expecting some evidence that there is a Bigfoot out there, and The GOOD & PLENTY story isn't going to cut it. |
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More Yellowstone footies! Perfect example of Feynman's warning about fooling oneself. |
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There is more to this than just the location. We require everyone attending to provide us with emergency contact information for at least two people not attending. Additionally, we gather other personal information such as email, cell phones, etc. and the NDA protects from that information being distributed too.
If Garrett attends, I'm pretty sure he doesn't want his personal cell phone number splashed on the internet for all to see. It goes both ways. Also Garrett, I forgot to add that there is a liability waiver that is required. I will be more than happy to provide that if you would like to read through it. |
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I think that it was the BFRO NDA form which is available here: http://www.bfro.net/docs/nda.htm
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SRA Non-Disclosure Agreement as provided by Northern Lights via pm to me. Formatting is slightly different for clarity, but otherwise identical:
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Sorry, I must have missed this earlier.
I'm not willing to disclose any of the exact locations but I will say that if we use public land, we go to state forests and not state parks. State forests allow for dispersed camping whereas state parks tend to require camping in designated locations. No permit is needed and the "leave no trace" courtesy expected. We have explored State Wildlife Refuge sites, but camping does require permission from the land manager ahead of time and with so many other sites open, we haven't found it necessary to pursue that. If I remember correctly, you had an NDA with Chris. Right? |
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Here is the NDA again but in sections with my comments.
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My summarized take: It is amateurishly put together as if pulled off a DIY legal site and then modified without having a lawyer look at it. As a result of the amateurishness – or possibly intentionally – the proscriptions on the signer of the agreement are both ill-defined and far too broad, not to mention that they stretch into the arena normally left to the determination of a court upon complaint of a breach. No. The NDA does not provide such protection for the signer.
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To your knowledge, would the research group be willing to sign both an NDA and a liability waiver in return? |
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I was answering ABP's post. I think ABP alluded to this: http://www.internationalskeptics.com...&postcount=809 and mixed up BFRO NDA with SRA NDA.
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He did, and that was at a national park, not a forest (state or otherwise). Mammoth Cave National Park has designated camping areas, though some of them are primitive back country sites.
And in case you ask, Cervelo did not reveal the location. Deducing it was not at all hard given the posts about it, including posts by ChrisBFRPKY, particularly those who have been there repeatedly, as I have. |
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Not asking for exact locations....other than the name of the public property, something along the lines of "Bigfoot Valley Wildlife Refuge/NP/State Park or whatever" is where the good n plenty contest will be held. That way just as with Chris I could make plans to visit other areas, such as Mammoth Cave NP, which I did while I visited with Chris.
Yes I did sign an NDA with Chris. But hey it's your gig and you can play it however you like. |
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