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Say, you managed to actually get through a post without resorting to Black Bloc posting tactics.
Now, as to the "substance" of that post, the characteristic of the people who use Black Bloc tactics is they use *********** Black Bloc tactics, which are stupid, violent and totally unproductive, notwithstanding what a bunch of teachers in freaking Brazil think about how "cute" they are. Now the ones I have had to deal with also smell bad and steal other protesters food, as I have explained. |
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Here in Northern California,the Black Bloc in Berkeley has been notorious ever since they pretty much derailed the Occupy movement with their antics. Berserkly is a natural habitat for them.
The vast majority of Progressives and other Lefties in California distance themselves from the "Movement" in Berkeley. In what other city is there a book store with a huge picture of Stalin in the front window? |
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One would imagine that a person of the level of conviction he is so desperately attempting to portray would be out there right now showing us how to overthrow fascists.
Instead here he is, doing his level best to marry the idea of resisting oppressive government policies with behavior that the vast majority of the public find to be entirely indefensible at best, if not outright threatening to both their immediate and long term physical safety. |
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This bears absolutely no ressemblance to anything I've said. No wonder you think I'm inconsistent.
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So no evidence then?
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All the evidence of your lying eyes. Not proof to your satisfaction, but this is poor sophism.
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Note that our interest waned in entertaining CM over in the other thread and now that we are all here, he has to follow along and make this entire thread about himself now, as well.
Another classic hallmark of Black Bloc: show up to someone else's party and demand the music change to what they want. |
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What evidence? The mere fact of having employed a black bloc tactic? Plenty of non-anarchist leftists do that as well.
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It doesn't have to be significant to simply 'add up' to a decisive critical mass.
Regarding Felons - I was saying 'ex felons' - they can vote today, and make up about 25% of the black population. This seems like a very attractive demographic for white supremacists to decree unworthy of enfranchisement. Easy sell. Regarding drug addicts - drug testing will catch a hundred casual users for every 'addict'. Depending on the test, there may be a high false positive rate. So: if policy is to administer it to 'suspicious' would be voters ("anybody who looks lefty"), if it has a 5% false positive rate, that will successfully disenfranchise 5% of that demographic. So many districts are <1% margin, this could be a game changer. And: it's an easy sell. Regarding DREAMers - they represent a voting demographic when they come of age to apply for citizenship. Deporting them now slows the growth of that demographic and is another easy sell. ETA: and also regarding DREAMers - nullifying the DREAM Act is another way to do it, but deportation is more tempting, because then they won't have anchor babies. |
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I believe in almost universal suffrage. We should not deny the right to vote to any US citizen above the age of 18 including ex-felons or even convicts in prison. I do believe that convicts should vote in the election where they resided in before they were incarcerated as opposed to the community where the prison is at though. This idea that just because someone may have broken the law that they should be deprived of their voice is wrong in my book.
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I align with caveman on almost nothing.
But on this we can find common ground. I have yet to meet a black bloc that was less than 90% young adult white males from the suburbs who wouldn't know oppression if it crushed their throat with a boot stomp. After a hard day of putting their sacred lives and honor on the line in the grand struggle to 'liberate the public spaces', they will pile into their hand-me-down mid-size luxury sedans their parents gave them, go back to loft condos in gentrified neighborhoods (they moved their for 'the diverse culture' that they displaced upon arriving in it) paid for with mommy and daddy's trust fund money and complain about how 'ungrateful' the other protesters were to them. |
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Of course it's not morally acceptable either, and I thought I implied that, but maybe I wasn't explicit enough. Violence, except in self-defense, and vandalism is always wrong.
I will point out that it may be that the ones doing the violent acts were not UC Berkley students, but these "Black Bloc" anarchist thugs. Peaceful protesters should be wary of these interlopers, as they can turn an otherwise peaceful protest into a riot, which discredits the protesters. They are not your allies. |
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My favorite bunch so far got a group of activists to go along on a direct action that wasn't approved by the general assembly. They were going to 'reclaim' an old, abandoned highway/public works building to turn it into a community shelter/kitchen/library. Well, first of all, they didn't do their homework. Behind the building was another state property that had a guard post. So police were basically on the scene in minutes. Worse yet, the press was seconds behind that so the cameras record a bunch of people basically breaking into a building. There was no time to get set up and try to convince them to 'see what we're doing to the place.'
Even more fun, several weeks prior one of the antifa had weaseled their way onto the legal defense working group. Our resident anarchist contingent started making a stink about the camp being in a place the police 'approved for us' (takes a lot of effort to get a working understanding in place, let me tell you) and claimed they were going to set up at one of the homeless camps along the slopes of the hill on the outskirts of the downtown area. Fast forward again to the direct action. The legal working group needed to ask the general assembly for permission to devote funds to those arrested at the action (because it had not been approved). The GA did so. They go to get the funds and find the account nearly empty. Someone had racked up thousands of dollars on 2 hotel rooms (1 suite-of-rooms and 1 double queen room) for 9 days. We're not talking Residence Inn, either. We couldn't bail them out. Some were from out of town. This is another problem with actions that are not approved, there wasn't a serious discussion about risks (and they figured they were covered for bail, anyways). We never saw our little anarchist friend on the legal fund again. Anyone want to take some guesses here? |
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