3rd mistrial for cop who killed daughter's boyfriend

Something's very wrong when my first thought, of a US LEO having shot a black man, especially under these circumstances, is that he's obviously guilty.

I have to force myself to think with a blank slate.

It really should be the other way around.
 
3point14 said:
Something's very wrong when my first thought, of a US LEO having shot a black man, especially under these circumstances, is that he's obviously guilty.

I have to force myself to think with a blank slate.

It really should be the other way around.
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Just think of it as an honor killing.
 
That's kind of bizarre, I had jury duty for a fraud/animal abuse case, the judge just made us go back to the jury room when we came out after a day and said we were deadlocked.

2 hours, send them back to fight some more.
 
Are they going back for 4, or dropping the case due to lack of persuasive evidence?
 
It's not surprising at all for a case that has already been through two other trials without a verdict.

Let's just ******* the Constitution and Bill of Rights when we don't like the verdict or the result.
 
BStrong said:
It's not surprising at all for a case that has already been through two other trials without a verdict.

Let's just ******* the Constitution and Bill of Rights when we don't like the verdict or the result.
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I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying there shouldn't have been more than one trial, or that the mistrial was a mistake?
 
Argumemnon said:
I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying there shouldn't have been more than one trial, or that the mistrial was a mistake?
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Why even have a trial when people who don't know anymore about a given case than what they read in the papers are ready to be judge and jury?

String up anybody the mob believes to be guilty and immediately cease enforcing any law the mob finds objectionable.
 
BStrong said:
Why even have a trial when people who don't know anymore about a given case than what they read in the papers are ready to be judge and jury?

String up anybody the mob believes to be guilty and immediately cease enforcing any law the mob finds objectionable.
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Normally I would agree but I can hardly see how they could in a deadlock, unless they give *any* weight to the pretension of the father that the other guy was armed. You gotta admit that superficially it reeks.
 
Aepervius said:
Normally I would agree but I can hardly see how they could in a deadlock, unless they give *any* weight to the pretension of the father that the other guy was armed. You gotta admit that superficially it reeks.
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But white people have long relied on jury nullification to get away with killing blacks. It would be wrong to stop that now.
 
BStrong said:
It's not surprising at all for a case that has already been through two other trials without a verdict.

Let's just ******* the Constitution and Bill of Rights when we don't like the verdict or the result.
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Not following either, are you saying its a violation of double jeopardy?
 
ponderingturtle said:
6-6. Though unclear if it was 6 murder and 6 manslaughter or 6 guilty and 6 not guilty.
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It would be especially crazy if it were 6 murder and 6 manslaughter. Hard to imagine they couldn't eventually get 12 for manslaughter if they start at 6 for murder.

Again, I stuck on the 2 hours, that's no time at all to give up on deliberation.

Back to the OP, there is solid evidence that a cop can't get convicted in the US even if he admits to a murder he committed on live TV.
 
ddt said:
According to this article, the first and second (mis)trial were 11-1 resp. 10-2 in favor of guilty for murder. It would be very out of line with those if this one was 6 in favor of not guilty.
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Well, to be fair, those other two juries deliberated for more than two *********** hours. It seems pretty clear that the judge didn't give a damn about whether or not the jury reached a verdict.
 
Babbylonian said:
Well, to be fair, those other two juries deliberated for more than two *********** hours. It seems pretty clear that the judge didn't give a damn about whether or not the jury reached a verdict.
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Oh yes. The funny thing is: it's the same judge as the two preceding trials. It sounds almost as if he wants to hear the case for a fourth time.
 
It is surprising. I was on a federal jury that deadlocked but the judge kept us deliberating for several days. Declaring a mistrial after two to three hours of deliberations sounds unusual.
 
newyorkguy said:
It is surprising. I was on a federal jury that deadlocked but the judge kept us deliberating for several days. Declaring a mistrial after two to three hours of deliberations sounds unusual.
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I was on a jury where the accused admitted his guilt while on the witness stand, and it still took us four hours to agree because the wording of the third and most minor charge was ambiguous.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Might be time to introduce Majority verdicts where 10+ of the 12 takes it.
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I'm on board with this, my jury duty would have lasted 30 minutes if that was the case, instead it took us a week to browbeat convince the other two jurors. I suppose I should respect them for standing up to 10 other people except the one was inventing alibis for the guy that neither he nor his lawyer had mentioned.
 
I think they should have a test for jurors to find the ones pretty certain to never find someone guilty for any of certain idiot reasons (although it is stupid, the only one close to acceptable (and should keep them off any jury) is the absolute belief that if they help find someone guilty it's friends and family may try to get back at them!!!!!
 
TragicMonkey said:
I was on a jury where the accused admitted his guilt while on the witness stand, and it still took us four hours to agree because the wording of the third and most minor charge was ambiguous.
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I thought this never happened except in Perry Mason episodes.
 
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