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Cont: The Trump Presidency Part III

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Captain_Swoop said:
Donald Trump's government has issued a ruling that allows employers to opt out of providing free birth control to millions of Americans.
The rule allows employers and insurers to decline to provide birth control if doing so violates their "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions".

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, the top Republican in Congress, praised the decision as "a landmark day for religious liberty".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41528526
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I kinda hope that establishing such an exception for "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" gets taken down the path of unintended consequences.

The fundies need to learn that their peculiar, repressed flavor of Christianity does not comprise the only "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" in the country.
 
quadraginta said:
I kinda hope that establishing such an exception for "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" gets taken down the path of unintended consequences.

The fundies need to learn that their peculiar, repressed flavor of Christianity does not comprise the only "religious beliefs" or "moral convictions" in the country.
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Next up: Scientologist run organizations demanding health care plans that don't offer any psychiatric care. Given their teaching about psychiatrists I'd say that s as religiously defensible as refusing to cover birth control pills.

How many left-wing run outfits can use this to refuse to cover vaccinations?

It'll be interesting when some Christian Scientists refuse to offer ANY health coverage at all.
 
Jim_MDP said:
Has The Donald's hair gone white, or did he stop showering in Cheetos dust?
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In late December he briefly tried on another look. It was blondish-silver (ash blond?) and the style was different. It made him better-looking, IMO, but he might have thought it made him look old.
 
Stacko said:
The interesting part is how the emails to Milo show central anti-feminism and misogyny are to the alt-right's appeal. It's like their gateway drug to racism.
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That's because his part started in Gamergate, the "ethics in games journalism" crowd that actually spent an amazing amount of time harassing women online. I'd bet some of those Charlottesville white supremacists came out of that movement, too.
 
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Mumbles said:
That's because his part started in Gamergate, the "ethics in games journalism" crowd that actually spent an amazing amount of time harassing women online. I'd bet some of those Charlottesville white supremacists came out of that movement, too.
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The right does not have a monopoly on harassing women. I give you Harvey Weinstein as an example.......
 
dudalb said:
The right does not have a monopoly on harassing women. I give you Harvey Weinstein as an example.......
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Never said they did - and I didn't say all of Gamergate was on the right, either. Frankly, I suspect a lot of them didn't care much about politics. But they started as a group of angry gamers that harassed women like Zoe Quinn and Anita Saarkesian, likely for encroaching on "their" games.

Actually, Milo thought gaming was idiotic right up until this group started up, at which point he suddenly loved video games.
 
dudalb said:
Depends on what the bill authorizing the wall says.
With all the crap Trump has one, making a fuss over this is pretty silly.
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I'm not making a fuss over that, per se. Governments have purchasing laws they have to at least pretend to follow. It's Trump's normalization of his "emperor" status that bothers me. A lot of people wouldn't even question the idea that it's Trump's decision to make. Some big infrastructure project like that? It's the Deep State that executes those plans, not the CEO, because the projects take longer than any one president's tenure. There is supposed to be a fail-safe against having one person essentially dictate policy. The wall is not an executive order; it's a contract.

Right now they're just on prototypes and if the real wall as as butt-ugly as the one the BBC ran a picture of, the wall may lose some support. It's hideous, and it's not a solution at all, or even part of a solution. It's as if the designers made it as ugly as possible in order to drain support. Building a wall means a lot of other infrastructure projects aren't going to happen.
 
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Right now they're just on prototypes and if the real wall as as butt-ugly as the one the BBC ran a picture of, the wall may lose some support. It's hideous, and it's not a solution at all, or even part of a solution. It's as if the designers made it as ugly as possible in order to drain support. Building a wall means a lot of other infrastructure projects aren't going to happen.
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What tickled me when I saw that photo is that it is nothing but bog-standard precast panels. I could have taken that same photo at any of thousands of cheap, spec-built warehouse space put up by opportunistic developers everywhere.

There's a lot more that goes into preparing for those than just standing them up in a parking lot.
 
chrispy said:
My family keeps asking if I ever plan to move back to the states. ''I'm cool here, thanks'' is my usual response.
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To be fair, that avatar photo suggests some interesting issues. Maybe your family wants to get you help. Just a thought, no offense intended.
 
phiwum said:
To be fair, that avatar photo suggests some interesting issues. Maybe your family wants to get you help. Just a thought, no offense intended.
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Hahahahaha. That is my favorite random internet photo ever. Plus, as a cat person, I find it disgustingly hilarious. :D
 
Civet said:
That woman is incredible. She's so method she makes Daniel Day Lewis look like he's phoning it in.
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She's had lots of practice pretending that her dad's jokes are funny and her brother is a well adjusted person.
 
thaiboxerken said:
It's all about controlling women.
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Yes, isn't it? These monkeys with shoes (h/t to Tim Minchin) barley conceal what they share with other primates. But the image below, because the primate has no hair, makes it a lot easier to imagine our deep connections to other primates.
 
Trebuchet said:
She also promised to "get back to you" on Trump's ridiculously false claim the US taxes are the highest in the world. Just today, mind you.
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If the news agencies were smarter they would start sending their most junior reporters to the White House press briefings. As the lying continues they should then send teenage interns. With no change they should then pool reporters with several agencies sharing one at the briefing, leaving lots of vacant chairs. I wonder if any of that would get noticed? Would Trump start claiming that his press briefings were attended by more reporters than any president's in history?
 
CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
 
pgwenthold said:
This resolution was not for against the death penalty. It was for or against the execution of LGBT. Specifically, it was about the discriminatory use of the death penalty against LGBT.
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I'm a bit late but I want to make it clear that the resolution was about more than LGBT rights:

The Human Rights Council resolution condemned the “imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations”.

It attacked the use of execution against persons with “mental or intellectual disabilities, persons below 18 years of age at the time of the commission of the crime, and pregnant women”.

It also expressed “serious concern that the application of the death penalty for adultery is disproportionately imposed on women”.
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Linky-poo.

As a sexist aside, the spokeswoman in the video on that page is a real looker.
 
dudalb said:
Trump is going to scrap the Treaty with Iran.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-pl...y-iran-nuclear-deal-washington-191726673.html

Now we need a sort of gallows humor betting pool going:Which will Trump get us into a war with first:North Korea or Iran?

And we will not have an ally left in the world the way Trump is going.
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This decision was a real downer for me. Worse than almost all others, except maybe his nomination of Pruitt. If he follows through, he's putting a match to the whole Middle East, if not the world. I'm to the point where even Pence would be an acceptable alternative.
 
dudalb said:
CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
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A Kelly-less WH, uff da.
 
dudalb said:
CNN is reporting that Kelly might me nearing the breaking point;According to CNN, Wendesday Kelly told Trump, after Trumps temper tantrum over Tillerson calling him a moron,that if Tillerson left it would be very hard for him to function as chief of staff.
Since the universal opinion is that Tillerson as SOS is a dead man walking, You could have a double exit...............
Then as far as Chaos goes, we ain't seen nothing yet...
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IMO he/they will not quit. They have shown time and again that they are lickspittle lackeys willing to put up with all kinds of abuse to stay close to power - and further the far right agenda.

It's too late for any of them to grow a spine now....


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They're touted as the voices of reason curbing his baser urges - I have yet to see evidence for that.
 
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NoahFence said:
Jobs numbers down this month for the 1st time in 7 years. More winning!
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I'm sure the Mercers actually find this good news. It's only the part-time and casual workers who work on the clock, after all. No brokers, bond dealers, developers, hedge fund managers - you know... the RIGHT people ... are out of work.
 
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