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31st October 2017, 01:03 PM | #161 |
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They did not go to Maui because the island did not have harbors deep enough? Have they ever been to Hawaii?
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31st October 2017, 05:18 PM | #162 |
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Yes, the HowStuffWorks link mentioned that some states and local authorities had started to charge for search-and-rescue. And I can see the logic in it, what with austerity (which hits even harder on local authorities than on national) and with ever more totally inexperienced people going on some sort of adventure. But the open sea is a harsh mistress, and inexperienced sailors there are few and far between, so I'm glad to see the Coast Guard doesn't charge people.
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31st October 2017, 05:25 PM | #163 |
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She says they want to do the trip again next May. If they can't get her old boat back then they will build another "unsinkable and unbreakable boat."
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31st October 2017, 05:47 PM | #164 |
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Not sure if this has been posted yet. Experts Question Story of Women Lost At Sea
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Slightly off-topic, but not all that much.
When I'm King of the World (KotW) (TM) (c) (not really), people engaging in risky behavior will be required to purchase Risky Behavior Insurance. Wanna get rescued, have the paramedics come, get treated at the ER after something goes wrong? Insurance covers it. Otherwise you either stay there and die or pay the bill. Pumpkin Hurling Insurance? Perhaps not too expensive. Skydiving Insurance? Maybe a bit more. Sailing across the ocean when you don't know what you're doing? Pricey! |
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Skydiving operations already are required to carry insurance, I believe.
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1st November 2017, 08:25 AM | #170 |
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Originally Posted by The Telegraph
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1st November 2017, 09:40 AM | #174 |
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Their original plan was to go to Tahiti and then through the South Pacific and returning to Hawaii in October. They may have told all sorts of people about their plans but said that they will see and talk to them when they return in October. Hence nobody thinks they are in any trouble or out-of-communication because of trouble. Maybe.
I haven't seen anything in the press about their personal or occupational background. Whatever happens to be their "job situation", it is one that allows them to go away for 5 months. It would also mean being away from your home and any other obligations for that period. |
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1st November 2017, 10:30 AM | #176 |
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I had missed this part about the sharks...
Originally Posted by ABC News
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Tigers Sharks grow to about 17 feet max, do not attack boats and do not make coordinated attacks. Add to the long list of BS - although my favorite is still their claim that they thought they were within a day of death yet never turned on their rescue beacon because they were in no danger.
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1st November 2017, 11:43 AM | #179 |
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Within a day of death with lots of food and water and in perfect health.
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My favorite is the epic storm that's flatly contradicted by satellite imagery.
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Seriously did they spend two weeks out to sea and then 4 and a half months watching Jaws and the Perfect Storm on loop while smoking weed?
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1st November 2017, 01:15 PM | #184 |
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I've changed my mind about this whole thing. I don't think that their boat was storm-damaged and could not be navigated. I think that Jennifer Appel planned a stranding situation of her own doing (a sabotage of sorts) and didn't tell her partner Tasha Fuiaba that she was doing it. It was Fuiaba's very first time on a sailboat so she knows nothing about anything including riggings, sails, motors, communication devices, how to sail, etc.
I think Appel really wanted to be out there drifting for even longer. She would watch the food and water supply and enact the beacon with a few days supply left. For the entire trip she would be telling lies and giving misdirection to Fuiaba. |
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1st November 2017, 01:47 PM | #186 |
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Crazy love. Two people with messed up minds are in love. One is the leader and dominant - the other is submissive and follows. The event will be huge and bond them together forever. The submissive one doesn't really know what's happening but the dominant has is all planned out.
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Women rescued by Navy defend their account of ordeal at sea
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Appel needed to avoid all the ports even though she was near them and could go in or radio to have rescuers come to them. She did that because Fuiaba would not understand why they would land and not get help with the broken boat or not communicate with folks back home saying they broke down but are okay. Appel wouldn't be able to explain that to her. So instead she just told lies to her all along the way and stayed away from ports and help.
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Platonic co-dependency is also a possibility. I've seen friendships follow the same downward trajectory without having a sexual component.
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1st November 2017, 02:41 PM | #195 |
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I don't know if I know the rules of skepticism. Not sure if I'd care either.
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And that talk about using the radio hundreds and hundreds of times and getting no response... that could be Appel lying to Fuiaba on board. She can pretend to use the radio and not really transmit or do something to prevent it from working. Reports quote her saying that 6 different communication devices failed. I'm having trouble believing anything that comes out of her mouth.
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Perhaps, but the fact that something is unknowable but trivial (from our perspectives) doesn't warrant wild ass guesses.
You don't know these two. You don't know whay Pacific cruising is like. You don't need an opinion. In such situations, skepticism suggests caution in drawing conclusions. We can rely on expert testimony that something is fishy, but to declare they are lovers really goes beyond the evidence and the need for an opinion. |
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Does anyone buy their reasoning for not using their EPIRB? If your motor is dead and your mast is broken, you don't have much control over the vessel, so how can you be sure that you aren't in any danger? If you have no control, couldn't you be swamped by a storm (as that unfortunate freighter was a year or 2 ago)? And if all of your other communication devices are dead, you won't get any weather forecasts.
OK, I'll get back to trying to envision how much space a year's supply of food for 2 people would take compared to the size of the cabin on their boat. |
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I didn't understand the skepticism about their initial claims, but this is just nonsense.
As you said, tiger sharks don't reach 30 feet (few great whites even reach that length), and they don't go around slapping boats with their tails. Utter rubbish. Send them a bill for the rescue. |
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