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http://www.weeklystandard.com/kenyo...ration-starts-whiteness-group/article/2011470


The Good Samaritan’s retraction comes serendipitously at the same moment as the creation of a new student group at Kenyon: “the whiteness group.”

The group was founded by a student, Juniper Cruz, and is notable not just for its name, but for its rules, which state that “no white person can ask a person of color questions; white people must try to answer their questions for themselves. And no spreading rumors about what people say during the meetings.”
 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/kenyo...ration-starts-whiteness-group/article/2011470


The Good Samaritan’s retraction comes serendipitously at the same moment as the creation of a new student group at Kenyon: “the whiteness group.”

The group was founded by a student, Juniper Cruz, and is notable not just for its name, but for its rules, which state that “no white person can ask a person of color questions; white people must try to answer their questions for themselves. And no spreading rumors about what people say during the meetings.”

And?
 
"PC tards" - in English, please?


"PC" means "politically correct."

"Tards" is short for "retards" which is short for people with the condition that used to be called mental retardation (originally based on it being diagnosed as delays, the original meaning of retardation, in meeting early childhood developmental milestones such as sitting up, crawling, and speaking) or what are now known as intellectual disabilities, such as my twin brother and the nonverbal senior guys I help take care of in my day job.

However, I've never seen any of them attempt to censor a play or start an activist group, so the association with the linked article remains unclear.
 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/kenyo...ration-starts-whiteness-group/article/2011470


The Good Samaritan’s retraction comes serendipitously at the same moment as the creation of a new student group at Kenyon: “the whiteness group.”

The group was founded by a student, Juniper Cruz, and is notable not just for its name, but for its rules, which state that “no white person can ask a person of color questions; white people must try to answer their questions for themselves. And no spreading rumors about what people say during the meetings.”
Seeing something more than an emoji, I had to pick myself up from the floor. But then I noticed that every bit is quoted from the article, save the thread title. It's best practice to use quote tags. With a little bit of practice, you should be able to master this skill.

That said, these sort of stories are depressing.
 
I hate Kenyons. They're nothing but trouble. I hope they all get sent home where they belong.
 
It's amazing that it's possible to read an article about something and not know what actually happened:
What exactly did the students object to? I mean, they might have had a point, but it's impossible to learn from the article if they did or not.

Why are the people objecting to the play described as a mob and as witch hunters?
"Evidently discussions are acceptable only after the mob has gotten its witch."
 
Seeing something more than an emoji, I had to pick myself up from the floor. But then I noticed that every bit is quoted from the article, save the thread title. It's best practice to use quote tags. With a little bit of practice, you should be able to master this skill.

That said, these sort of stories are depressing.

Sooo, you are saying somebody here is a Quote-tard. :D
 
According to The Kenyon Thrill:

Prior to the cancellation of Wendy Macleod’s new play, “The Good Samaritan,” The Thrill reached out to Kenyon community members to see if they had any comments on play.


They asked for comments, and they got them. I haven't read the play, so I can't say if I agree with them or not, but they seem to have read the play and have legitimate objections to it:

I’ve read through the play and it seems to me that Professor MacLeod was more invested in writing a provocative story starring white characters rather than doing justice to the arduous experiences of Guatemalan and Latin American youths who are forced to immigrate north. The characterization of Hector makes no logical sense and reduces him to a plot device that can be molded in any which way to create “comedy” between the white characters who are given most of the dialogue and attention. This isn’t a production about the experience of a Guatemalan boy who has persevered against national laws and social factors which criminalize and dehumanize his very existence, this is a an exercise in cultural hegemony with heavy notes of white savior complex.


Isn't it possible that the professor listened to the objections and withdrew the play because she could see their point?

Isn't it possible that a well-meaning white person does something, only later to realize that it might have been based on prejudice no matter how well intended it was?

(Isn't it even possible that Harriet Beecher Stove, if she were alive today (and I know that this is stretching what is possible quite a bit!), might see that Uncle Tom wasn't exactly the best role model for enslaved African-Americans?)

The Association of Black Women Historians aren't too crazy about The Help. I tend to agree with them.


See also: White Savior Narrative in Film (Wikipedia)
 
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Seeing something more than an emoji, I had to pick myself up from the floor. But then I noticed that every bit is quoted from the article, save the thread title. It's best practice to use quote tags. With a little bit of practice, you should be able to master this skill.

That said, these sort of stories are depressing.


Was it the use of "serendipitously" that tipped you off?
 
"PC" means "politically correct."

"Tards" is short for "retards" which is short for people with the condition that used to be called mental retardation (originally based on it being diagnosed as delays, the original meaning of retardation, in meeting early childhood developmental milestones such as sitting up, crawling, and speaking) or what are now known as intellectual disabilities, such as my twin brother and the nonverbal senior guys I help take care of in my day job.

However, I've never seen any of them attempt to censor a play or start an activist group, so the association with the linked article remains unclear.

I seriously doubt that our fellow poster would be using such crass language. I mean maybe if it was an emoji I would believe it . . .
 
I seriously doubt that our fellow poster would be using such crass language. I mean maybe if it was an emoji I would believe it . . .

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(Isn't it even possible that Harriet Beecher Stove, if she were alive today (and I know that this is stretching what is possible quite a bit!), might see that Uncle Tom wasn't exactly the best role model for enslaved African-Americans?)

I don't know how Uncle Tom got a bad rap; he's one of the all-time heroes of fiction in my book.

Here's an article which gets a little more specific about the plot of the play and the objections to it:

The play is based on a true story: in 2017, a group of men in Marion County, fewer than 50 miles from the College, were indicted on federal charges for smuggling Guatemalan workers and forcing them to work on an egg farm for up to 12 hours per day, according to a Dec. 28 Toledo Blade article. Some of the workers were 14 and 15 years old.

The Good Samaritan imagines what might happen if one of the minors involved in this forced labor operation escaped to a nearby liberal arts school. The play takes place in a dorm room as a group of privileged white students decide what to do after one of them finds Hector in the backseat of her car.

The play is labeled a comedy, and much of the play’s humor is told through the cultural insensitivity of the white students. The play’s bisexual character is taunted and speculated over, while the working-class white character speaks in exaggerated rural slang — but most of the play’s dialogue revolves around 15-year-old Hector.

He does not speak English and the students who speak Spanish continually misinterpret and misspeak when they try to communicate with him. He has slightly over 130 lines in the 139-page play, and the majority of them are under 10 words. “Guatemala,” he says, patting his chest; “huevos,” meaning eggs; “gracias,” meaning thank you. Professor of Spanish Clara Román-Odio said she has identified 40 instances of ethnic insensitivity in the play. For example, the characters continually claim Hector is from Argentina though he says he is from Guatemala. They also repeatedly refer to him as “illegal.”

Sounds like a play about stupid white people. Actually it sounds like a stupid play about particularly stupid white people. Get this:

She said the play’s use of stereotypes was particularly harmful. “It hurts when jokes about cocaine and alcohol are associated with marginalized communities,” Alma said. At the beginning of the play, one of the characters, Lexy, mistakes Hector’s request for hot cocoa as a request for cocaine.

Like I said, it sounds like a pretty silly play being objected to by pretty silly students.
 
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Is there such a thing as just bad writing any more?

Do we have to make it a struggle between white and color every time someone makes a poor character? I get it ,no one cares you didn't like a play so you have to amp up why, but seriously grow the **** up.
 
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It's OK guys, he meant "turd" - maybe you could get that misspelling in the title of the thread fixed so you don't look like an asshat.
 
The group was founded by a student, Juniper Cruz, and is notable not just for its name, but for its rules, which state that “no white person can ask a person of color questions; white people must try to answer their questions for themselves. And no spreading rumors about what people say during the meetings.”

Hard to get too outraged because any white who voluntarily joins that racist group is flat out asking for abuse.
 
The play sounds horrible. SJW one-upmanship aside, the objections actually sound reasonable.

I would take pretty short odds that the play was intended to challenge white students on their assumptions about Hispanics, and to show how wrong they could be. Sounds like a particularly cheesy episode of Saved by the Bell.
 
I would take pretty short odds that the play was intended to challenge white students on their assumptions about Hispanics, and to show how wrong they could be. Sounds like a particularly cheesy episode of Saved by the Bell.
Sometimes I wonder if the Left understands what people are, or how they work.
 

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