Comey is a petty idiot

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Comey getting it wrong.

Comey told interviewer George Stephanopoulos that the FBI was unaware of the salacious and unverified dossier until after the bureau formally opened its counterintelligence investigation of President Donald Trump’s campaign.

The investigation was opened on July 31, 2016. Comey is contradicted by extensive reporting that dossier author Christopher Steele provided the FBI with information from his dossier on July 5, 2016.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/16/james-comeys-false-dossier-claim/
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Once again you are copying text from a source without making it clear those are their words and not yours. From the second and third paragraphs of the news story you link to:
Comey told interviewer George Stephanopoulos that the FBI was unaware of the salacious and unverified dossier until after the bureau formally opened its counterintelligence investigation of President Donald Trump’s campaign.

The investigation was opened on July 31, 2016. Comey is contradicted by extensive reporting that dossier author Christopher Steele provided the FBI with information from his dossier on July 5, 2016.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Comey's media blitz and I assume his book are nothing but him rationalizing that he wasn't to blame.

He blames Lynch, circumstances he had to address, and of course, it's the voters' fault, not his.
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Just like Hillary!

He's right though, the voters are to blame - and anyone who denies it has no right to accuse him of deflecting.
 
Hungry81 said:
Lol Trump supporters complaining about petty idiots. Irony, obtuseness, hypocracy, or all 3?
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It is pretty amusing, pettiness might be Trump's most distinctive personality trait. Above all else, I am most astonished that a guy get live 70 years on earth, run an arguably successful business in the public eye and still have the pettiness of a toddler.
 
quadraginta said:
That is, after all, the form of government the GOP has been advocating for the past few decades.

Trump is its distilled essence.

(Or did you mean "hypocrisy"?)

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I like that.

Hypocracy = Rule By Hype?

But Hypo in Latin means beneath, or below, or less than normal.

Which could also lead to a funny interpretation.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
Just like Hillary!
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Bull, she never denied her own failures like Comey still is, denying his last minute reopening of the case actually mattered. He keeps repeating that even when it is pointed out to him by reporters trying too hard to be polite. But it's off topic and you've no doubt already ignored the facts.

Roger Ramjets said:
He's right though, the voters are to blame - and anyone who denies it has no right to accuse him of deflecting.
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He's not right. Trump lost the popular vote, people were at least somewhat misled by underhanded campaigning, hacked emails, voter suppression, and I have every right to accuse Comey of his part in sabotaging the election.


In addition, Comey's claimed that Trump should be voted out in 2020, not impeached. WTF, he's the ex-head of the FBI and he knows full well they are investigating criminal activity within the Trump campaign, including impeachable offenses. How stupid to then speak of voting Trump out and not mentioning impeachment if crimes are uncovered.

Comey is telling himself in a dozen ways he didn't have an impact on the election when he took the unprecedented action of discussing one candidate's case in public and not the other's.
 
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To be be fare to Comey, if I were in anyway responsible for electing Trump, I'd deny it too. To myself and everyone else, loudly and frequently until I believe it.
 
The Comey memos do more to corroborate the Pee Pee dossier than undermine it. There may be something to it after all.
 
Steele was a career British intelligence agent who served in some top positions. His dossier is raw intelligence. It's information gathering. Each piece of information is not vetted, as I understand it, only the source. The source has to have credibility, had to have been in a position to have had access to the information they claim to have, or it doesn't make it into the dossier.

The Golden Shower could well be true. I doubted it at first, but The Dunce is such a total lowlife, everything's in play. Now I have a hunch -- that's all it is -- I have a hunch it happened.
 
newyorkguy said:
Steele was a career British intelligence agent who served in some top positions. His dossier is raw intelligence. It's information gathering. Each piece of information is not vetted, as I understand it, only the source. The source has to have credibility, had to have been in a position to have had access to the information they claim to have, or it doesn't make it into the dossier.

The Golden Shower could well be true. I doubted it at first, but The Dunce is such a total lowlife, everything's in play. Now I have a hunch -- that's all it is -- I have a hunch it happened.
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I don't have an opinion either way about Trump's golden showers. And I really don't care if he's a freak. Steele reports it as a rumor circulating and not as something that is reliable. From my view it only matters as possible Russian blackmail. Whether this is what the Russians are using to blackmail Trump or if it is something else, that makes it dangerous.

And that is the one thing I ABSOLUTELY believe to be true.
 
zorro99 said:
The Comey memos do more to corroborate the Pee Pee dossier than undermine it. There may be something to it after all.
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Especially since Trump had to say something about Russian prostitutes in the conversation. Kind of like one of those 'I'm guilty' lies.
 
newyorkguy said:
Steele was a career British intelligence agent who served in some top positions. His dossier is raw intelligence. It's information gathering. Each piece of information is not vetted, as I understand it, only the source. The source has to have credibility, had to have been in a position to have had access to the information they claim to have, or it doesn't make it into the dossier.

The Golden Shower could well be true. I doubted it at first, but The Dunce is such a total lowlife, everything's in play. Now I have a hunch -- that's all it is -- I have a hunch it happened.
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That is hilarious!
 
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally in Sioux City Iowa. Link
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Fixed that for him.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody have a prostitute give me a golden shower and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said at a campaign rally in Sioux City Iowa. Link
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Why would it cost him any support? He expresses their views! ;)
 
I like how the progressive narrative around Comey was that he was a scrupulous professional whose unbiased investigation of Hillary's email server was proof enough that she had done no wrong... right up until the moment he became an incompetent partisan troll who cost Hillary the election.
 
theprestige said:
I like how the progressive narrative around Comey was that he was a scrupulous professional whose unbiased investigation of Hillary's email server was proof enough that she had done no wrong... right up until the moment he became an incompetent partisan troll who cost Hillary the election.
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I think you're setting up a huge straw man.
 
theprestige said:
I like how the progressive narrative around Comey was that he was a scrupulous professional whose unbiased investigation of Hillary's email server was proof enough that she had done no wrong... right up until the moment he became an incompetent partisan troll who cost Hillary the election.
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You think that's what the "progressive narrative" is?

How curious.
 
theprestige said:
I like how the progressive narrative around Comey was that he was a scrupulous professional whose unbiased investigation of Hillary's email server was proof enough that she had done no wrong... right up until the moment he became an incompetent partisan troll who cost Hillary the election.
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Venom said:
I think you're setting up a huge straw man.
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To be fair, I do think that there are people who behave as theprestige says. There are also right wingers who said he was awful when he didn't call for her to be indicted, and then he became a man of great principle when he reopened the investigation just before the election, and then became a ne'er-do-well again when he did.......something. I really don't remember what it was that caused Trump to fire him. I think he was conducting an investigation, but I don't remember any hint of partisanship about it, when Trump fired him.
 
Meadmaker said:
To be fair, I do think that there are people who behave as theprestige says. There are also right wingers who said he was awful when he didn't call for her to be indicted, and then he became a man of great principle when he reopened the investigation just before the election, and then became a ne'er-do-well again when he did.......something. I really don't remember what it was that caused Trump to fire him. I think he was conducting an investigation, but I don't remember any hint of partisanship about it, when Trump fired him.
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You don't remember why Trump fired him?
 
theprestige said:
You don't remember why Trump fired him?
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Nope. He was conducting an investigation, and I vaguely recall that Trump questioned his "loyalty", although why an FBI director would have "loyalty" to the President is beyond me. I think he criticized his handling of the Hillary investigation, which is B.S.


To be honest, so much of what has surrounded all of this investigation is so incredibly partisan that it just goes in one ear and out the other. That's from both sides.
 
Meadmaker said:
To be fair, I do think that there are people who behave as theprestige says. There are also right wingers who said he was awful when he didn't call for her to be indicted, and then he became a man of great principle when he reopened the investigation just before the election, and then became a ne'er-do-well again when he did.......something. I really don't remember what it was that caused Trump to fire him. I think he was conducting an investigation, but I don't remember any hint of partisanship about it, when Trump fired him.
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Because he wouldn't look the other way on Flynn and the Russians and wouldn't take an oath of loyalty to his orangeness.
 
Meadmaker said:
Nope. He was conducting an investigation, and I vaguely recall that Trump questioned his "loyalty", although why an FBI director would have "loyalty" to the President is beyond me. I think he criticized his handling of the Hillary investigation, which is B.S.


To be honest, so much of what has surrounded all of this investigation is so incredibly partisan that it just goes in one ear and out the other. That's from both sides.
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NO IT IS NOT! Republicans called for an appointment of a special prosecutor and Rosenstein is a lifelong Republican and so is Mueller. The idea that this some partisan witch hunt is just nonsense the liar and chief and Fox News are saying.
 
acbytesla said:
NO IT IS NOT! Republicans called for an appointment of a special prosecutor and Rosenstein is a lifelong Republican and so is Mueller. The idea that this some partisan witch hunt is just nonsense the liar and chief and Fox News are saying.
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That's the stuff that pissed off Don Lemon so much the other night. I too am sick of hearing such deflectional bs.
 
alfaniner said:
That's the stuff that pissed off Don Lemon so much the other night. I too am sick of hearing such deflectional bs.
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That Meadmaker would say that proves how effective Trumps strategy is. He gaslights the whole world and a great many people fall in line. I hate to say this but the 'old Jedi mind trick' works.
 
theprestige said:
Not that curious. I remember the claims about the investigation. And I remember the invective heaped upon him later.
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And I remember a lot more nuance than you seem to.

Your characterization of the "progressive narrative" overlooks all of that.

Even if one concedes that there is such a monolithic entity.

Progressives, however, tend to avoid the obligation to a central monologue which always seems so important to conservatives. Each of whom is only one misstep from becoming a RINO or CINO.

One being all that it takes.

I suspect that the expectation of such compelled unanimity is what leads you to want to see the same tendency in other, less exclusionary ideologies.
 
Meadmaker said:
To be honest, so much of what has surrounded all of this investigation is so incredibly partisan that it just goes in one ear and out the other. That's from both sides.
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It's not a partisan issue. Trump and his allies are trying to portray it as a partisan issue because that's the only narrative that can be advanced while disregarding the evidence.
 
quadraginta said:
And even then it is generally with yet another lie.

How is Trump different from a broken clock?

He can't even manage to be right twice a day.
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What if he manages to make peace with North Korea and bring an end to the Korean war?
 
Meadmaker said:
Nope. He was conducting an investigation, and I vaguely recall that Trump questioned his "loyalty", although why an FBI director would have "loyalty" to the President is beyond me. I think he criticized his handling of the Hillary investigation, which is B.S.


To be honest, so much of what has surrounded all of this investigation is so incredibly partisan that it just goes in one ear and out the other. That's from both sides.
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The memo giving the reason for firing Comey is public record.
 
acbytesla said:
NO IT IS NOT! Republicans called for an appointment of a special prosecutor and Rosenstein is a lifelong Republican and so is Mueller. The idea that this some partisan witch hunt is just nonsense the liar and chief and Fox News are saying.
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Sorry, but I haven't been duped.

The story of this investigation is Vladimir Putin, not Donald Trump. The Russians were meddling in our electoral politics. Why? And how? And with whom?

Now, I should hasten to point out that I may have misspoken slightly. I do not think the investigation itself is partisan. It's the rhetoric surrounding it. For many on the left, the focus is on finding out whether Donald Trump committed a crime, so we can impeach him. That's all that matters to them. That's pretty partisan. For many on the right, it's about shutting down the investigation because it might tarnish the Trump administration, or possibly even lead to Trump's impeachment. That's pretty partisan.

So many of you, like so many Americans, can only see this through a partisan lens. For so many people, the only thing that matters is how it affects Donald Trump. In reality, there are bigger issues here.

The interesting thing is that the actual news that has come out of the investigation itself is, so far, very sparse, as it should be. As best I can tell, the investigators themselves are handling this very professionally. The country, on the other hand, is seeing everything through a partisan lens.
 
theprestige said:
The memo giving the reason for firing Comey is public record.
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I remember that the reasons were sufficiently vapid that they should not have been taken seriously. What were they again? Not that it matters. It was ridiculous.


ETA: Yeah, I went back and looked at the memo. Partisan B.S. Not worthy of committing to memory.
 
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